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Democrats are now the party of the rich — so why not tax the rich?
Washington examiner ^ | 12/3/2017 | Steven Moore

Posted on 12/05/2017 9:05:47 AM PST by amnestynone

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To: G Larry

21 posted on 12/05/2017 9:46:05 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No kidding - I’m not in favor of higher taxes (government confiscation) of anyone’s money.


22 posted on 12/05/2017 9:46:16 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Jarhead9297
If I knew how to post images I’d post two right now that would floor you in the states that receive the most federal money and those that pay the most in federal taxes. These are rates information

Just post the link to the article that contains the information. People know how to copy and paste links and then go to the webpage.

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/
23 posted on 12/05/2017 9:47:27 AM PST by adorno
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To: G Larry

24 posted on 12/05/2017 9:48:50 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Jarhead9297
They don't necessarily rely on federal aid. The libs and the rinos give money to the poor and their are military bases and their are all kinds of programs that benefit lib the base. That does not mean that the average middle class American receives the money. But the Chamber of Commerce does get that money indirectly by the spending of the above groups which furthermore explains why the rinos we elect and the C of C corporatist can't or won't lower spending. There fore they ought to pay for more.
25 posted on 12/05/2017 9:55:09 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

Rather than punish innocent people who got rich through hard work, prosecute the Democrat crony crooks. That’s how they got rich.

I bet all those rich Democrat districts are centered around big government centers where political corruption is out of control.


26 posted on 12/05/2017 9:57:46 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Jarhead9297

Sure, it corresponds to the average wage rates in those states.


27 posted on 12/05/2017 9:58:09 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: amnestynone
How about the rich globalists and their rino allies quit the war on us!

"The rich" don't have a say in your tax rates, your 2nd Amendment rights, border security, wasting taxpayer funds, abortion, or anything else. It's government that is threatening your Liberty, not your fellow citizens.

28 posted on 12/05/2017 10:04:53 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“The rich” don't have a say in your tax rates, your 2nd Amendment rights, border security, wasting taxpayer funds, abortion, or anything else. It's government that is threatening your Liberty, not your fellow citizens.”

And who controls the government? The GOP is controlled by the Chamber of Commerce country Club and the Dems are controlled by globalist upper class cosmopolitan bi coastal elites. Both benefit from open borders and they don't care about our positions that you mentioned which is why nothing ever happens on them.

29 posted on 12/05/2017 10:11:48 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

bkmk


30 posted on 12/05/2017 10:16:14 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: amnestynone
The GOP is controlled by the Chamber of Commerce country Club and the Dems are controlled by globalist upper class cosmopolitan bi coastal elites.

Correct. A handful of deep-pocket globalist elites. NOT "the rich". That's Karl Marx speak.

31 posted on 12/05/2017 10:17:09 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: llevrok; amnestynone

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I am old enough to remember when the GOP was painted as the country club, lawyer, professional, millionaire crowd (a.k.a “the rich”) and the democrats were the blue collar “working man”.

Today, that paradigm has flipped. Yet the same old political saws are used as if the Dems are the financially oppressed
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Only showing you the (R), even before YOUR time, couldn’t talk themselves out of a used Kleenex. IE: The Uniparty is O-L-D.


32 posted on 12/05/2017 10:33:34 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: G Larry

Per capita fed tax given to gov and chart showing percentage of federal aid as a percentage of state revenue. There is no misconstruing the charts


33 posted on 12/05/2017 11:00:16 AM PST by Jarhead9297
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Correct. A handful of deep-pocket globalist elites. NOT “the rich”. That’s Karl Marx speak. “

And with a few exceptions the rest of the rich are either complicit or not involved. They spend the money they should pay the taxes.


34 posted on 12/05/2017 12:40:20 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone
And with a few exceptions the rest of the rich are either complicit or not involved. They spend the money they should pay the taxes.

"The rich" are your neighbors, the family sitting next to you in church, the doctor who delivered your children, the guy who improved your iPhone screen, the farmer just outside town, the family who run your local Ford dealership, the pilot who flew you to visit family, and on and on. They are not evil. They are productuve citizens just like you and me trying to raise and protect their family. They are losing Liberty to big government just like every citizen.

Marx considered them evil. I do not.

35 posted on 12/05/2017 1:03:46 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

These people for the most part are not the rich they may be affluent but they are not usually rich. The real rich are the ones who control the government and they are the ones giving us open borders wasting our money not standing for the national anthem and who control the MSM. I do not consider them to be evil but they obviously do not care for me and you or the people you mentioned. In fact I would be considered rich if the people who you mentioned are rich..


36 posted on 12/05/2017 1:24:06 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

Google the top 5%. You will find they are families who earn $214,462 or higher according to the Census Bureau. Every family I mentioned could easily be in the top 5%. Or not. But by any measure, the top 5% is considered “the rich”.

I’m not trying to hassle you, I’m trying to explain the real enemies of our Republic are the Antifa thugs who earn $12,000 a year as well as billionaires like George Soros. Being “rich” has nothing to do with anything. It just promotes Marxist language.


37 posted on 12/05/2017 1:45:41 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

To hell with rhetoric they run the run country and they are very rich. And it is not just the elite Democrats it also the elite Republicans who are passive, feckless,duplicitous and treacherous. As long as the are “working with the Democrats” they are not paying enough taxes and are just as much a part of the problem. Whether the the language is Marxist or not is just and od bugaboo from the previous generation. The communists are largely dead(though they may not agree with that). The insitutions of wealth are exactly where the problems lie now in this generation. Themedia the large tax free foundations the elite colleges, Wall Street, large corporations and you name it.


38 posted on 12/05/2017 3:09:42 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone
The insitutions of wealth are exactly where the problems lie now in this generation.

In Venezuela, yes. In the United States, no.

39 posted on 12/05/2017 3:13:04 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Do you not believe that the biggest threat to this country is open borders? If not open borders what about the media, large tax free foundations, elite colleges and other not so elite. the Chamber of Commerce rinos, The Manhattan-Beverly Hills axis. These and related institutions are exactly the ones who are trying to take over this country and change it into something we do not recognize. To people here are living in the past when the upper class was on our side. They They wore crew cuts and bought suits off of the rack at JC Penny. They served on school boards and made sure that nothing that was to left got into the schools and they ran a conservative Republican party. That is no longer the truth and when we understand it then we see how the world has changed. My world changed seeing the wealthy elites of both parties pushing the gang of eight. That woke me up to how we are in a comply different world and them and faster we understand it the more we can save our country.
40 posted on 12/05/2017 3:46:33 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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