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New York Times Slimes: Charles Manson ‘Was a Harbinger of Today’s Far Right’
Newsbusters.org ^ | November 21, 2017 | Scott Whitlock

Posted on 11/21/2017 4:10:02 PM PST by Kaslin

Never miss a chance to smear conservatives, even if that means somehow connecting the right to the murderous cult leader Charles Manson. That’s apparently the view of the New York Times and Newsweek. Both liberal outlets on Monday used Manson’s death to attack political enemies. A tweet for the NYT opinion piece by Baynard Woods slimed, “Charles Manson wasn't the inevitable outgrowth of the Sixties. If anything, he was a harbinger of today's far right.” 

Woods insisted that the killer “had more in common ideologically with far-right groups like the John Birch Society than he did with the anarchic leftism of, say, the Yippies.” Desperately trying to connect Manson to conservatives, he argued: 

[Manson] believed that African-Americans would soon rise up and begin to murder white people. Mr. Manson and his followers would be spared; they were going to hide beneath the desert in Death Valley until the war was over, when they would surface from their underground layer and rule over the black population, which, Mr. Manson claimed, would be unable to govern itself.

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Today, this sort of logic is all too familiar to us. The paranoid, racist and apocalyptic ramblings of Mr. Manson are the DNA of the reactionary alt-right. In the days leading up to Dylann Roof’s murder of nine black parishioners at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, S.C., he talked to his friends about a “race war” and later used the same language in interviews with investigators. He was an enthusiastic reader of alt-right websites.

Memo to the New York Times: Monsters like Manson and Dylann Roof aren’t "the right."  

Newsweek’s Melissa Matthews on Monday talked to psychoanalyst Mark Smaller about how cult leader Manson can help understand Trump and his supporters: 

Smaller is clear that he does not believe President Donald Trump is similar to the convicted killer, or that their followers have any shared beliefs or characteristics, but he did say we can look to the current president to see how language is used to form a bond with followers.

“Our current president speaks in an emotional or affective way to large numbers of people in our country who feel a kind of alienation or disconnection from the government,” he said. “They feel very responded to and become his political base.”

In case it wasn’t clear enough, the headline connected the dots: “How Murderer Charles Manson and Donald Trump Used Language to Gain Followers.” 

Is it possible, liberal journalists, that the rantings of a depraved cult leader/murderer don’t tell us anything about conservatives? 


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: baynardwoods; charlesmanson; cyperalerts; gaslighting; liberlfascism; melissamatthews; newsweak; newyorkslimes; newyorkslims; yellowjournalism
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1 posted on 11/21/2017 4:10:02 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

There’s more AntiFa about him than Rotarian.


2 posted on 11/21/2017 4:12:09 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Kaslin

Wasn’t the Manson clan living in a commune? Isn’t that like practicing communism? Charles Manson would have voted for Hillary without a doubt. You can see how they are trying to label us freedom lovers as dangerous. You can see how this translates into attacks on republicans in office.


3 posted on 11/21/2017 4:14:14 PM PST by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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To: Kaslin
In case it wasn’t clear enough, the headline connected the dots: “How Murderer Charles Manson and Donald Trump Used Language to Gain Followers.”

"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky."

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

4 posted on 11/21/2017 4:15:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are silly those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Kaslin

The truth is it’s white liberals that tend to have more of Manson’s worldview, that after the “Helter Skelter” race war he was trying to incite, that their “family” (elites) will rule the aftermath.


5 posted on 11/21/2017 4:15:22 PM PST by aynrandfreak (Being a Democrat means never having to say you're sorry)
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To: Kaslin

 

Actually Charlie was more a product of the progressive leftist culture manufactured by the likes of Herbert Marcuse -- the "father of the new left" and one of the principle arthitects of the Frankfurt School.

[The Architects of Western Decline:

A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]

https://vid.me/UoQm#17m10s

Without dialectic miscreants like Marcuse manufacturing the Golden Calf-fattening Cold War from their perch in the Deep State OSS/CIA (and the derivative experiments with LSD) Charlie’s fun-time in the desert would’ve likely been far less fruitful.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Marcuse+CIA+LSD+Manson

Got Fear and Self-Loathing?

6 posted on 11/21/2017 4:18:30 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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To: Kaslin

NY TIMES working in tandem with NEWSWEAK to push Soros’ latest mantra.


7 posted on 11/21/2017 4:20:33 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: Kaslin
WOW! Just when ya thought they couldn't be any more whack-a- doodle. Uh, Libs, we got your number----🖕🏻
8 posted on 11/21/2017 4:20:37 PM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: Kaslin

At this point, the only value the NYTs has to offer is in the amusement factor. Having lost all of its credibility, its butthurt swan song as it sinks from relevance can still provide a measure shadenfreudey deliciousness.


9 posted on 11/21/2017 4:23:46 PM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We Fix America)
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To: Kaslin

The NYT is being manipulated by Manson even though he’s dead.


10 posted on 11/21/2017 4:23:51 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Kaslin

So a bunch of druggie self proclaimed free love hippies living in a commune, and promoted the idea of a violent over through of the country and society, are now some how right wing or conservatives?

yea, okay.


11 posted on 11/21/2017 4:24:16 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Kaslin


Yeah, The Weathermen were real Far-Rightists. /s

12 posted on 11/21/2017 4:25:06 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: BillyCuccio

Charles Manson had NOTHING to do with the Far Right, or with anything else even remotely American.

He inspired Jonestown. The Peoples Temple Agricultural Project, better known by its informal name “Jonestown”, was a remote settlement established by the Peoples Temple, an American cult under the leadership of “Reverend” Jim Jones, in northwestern Guyana.

Most famously, the term “drink the Kool-Aid” came out of the sudden and catastrophic collapse of that colony.


13 posted on 11/21/2017 4:26:57 PM PST by alloysteel (The rhetorical question, "How stupid can you be?" is just considered to be a challenge by some.)
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To: Kaslin

The media also said in 2013 that the right wing killed JJFK.


14 posted on 11/21/2017 4:28:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kaslin
Manson wasn't a harbinger of the right at all. But some of the "alt-right, " which is not right wing, does have some ideas that mesh with some of Manson's ideas. He saw this whole black vs. white thing that the left and the "alt-right" use as well.

Normal conservatives don't buy into that.

15 posted on 11/21/2017 4:31:10 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kaslin
His biggest cheerleader, Bernadine Dohrn hosted Barry O's political kickoff suaré in her home, along with her co-radical leftist bomber, Bill Ayers. The left that spawned Obama had already years before gathered Manson to their bosom in solidarity.
16 posted on 11/21/2017 4:31:22 PM PST by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: Kaslin

Richard Spencer is rabidly pro-abortions, and is pro-gay marriage, etc. And he has adapted the left’s view on race, albeit from the opposite perspective. I don’t see why he shouldn’t be called alt-left, not alt-right.


17 posted on 11/21/2017 4:33:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: alloysteel
He inspired Jonestown.

I don't think that is true. But Jim Jones was close allies with Bay Area Democrats when he was in the Bay Area.

18 posted on 11/21/2017 4:35:30 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kaslin

Well the far left must be taking notes since they’re the ones doing it - murder, shootings, rape.


19 posted on 11/21/2017 4:36:23 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: BillyCuccio

>>Wasn’t the Manson clan living in a commune?

Several.

Manson’s final adventure was with the family living communally at Barker Ranch in Death Valley, where he hid in a cupboard.

>>You can see how they are trying to label us freedom lovers as dangerous.

Herbert Marcuse was the “Father of the New Left”. His analysis of Soviet Economy from within OSS/CIA helped to manufacture the Cold War.

The Cold War fattened the Golden Calf.

Simultaneously, Marcuse’s subversive Cultural Marxism ensured that the fattened bull would be easily subdued.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Marcuse+CIA+LSD

Without the Deep State’s adventures in better psychosis through chemistry - Manson’s influence over The Family would’ve have been significantly reduced.

Manson generated fear.  Fear fuels the Deep State.


20 posted on 11/21/2017 4:39:15 PM PST by HLPhat ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS" -- Government with any other purpose is not American.)
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