Posted on 11/17/2017 12:51:55 PM PST by Kaslin
RUSH: Okay. I just have one more thing here before we swerve back into the sexual harassment story. And I have to tell you, folks, there’s a part of this that is beginning to make me nervous, as an umbrella thing, not specifically. I’m just spotting a trend, and I know you have too. I’m sure I’m not the only person in this crowd. But you know, this business of sexual abuse is quickly approaching the same dynamics as racism in our culture.
And just as racism is a horrible thing to be accused of, and depending on how it’s done it’s sometimes hard to disprove it, it’s the same thing here with being accused of all kinds of improper behavior against women, especially blind allegations, they can be really tough to defend, especially the way the table is being set today. That women never make it up, that women don’t lie about it, that women must be believed. This is not an anti-woman screed. Now, don’t anybody misunderstand me here.
I’m addressing this as though we’re all human beings. Forget sex, gender, and all of that. I’m just assessing where our culture is going. And it’s because of the politicization of everything, because we have politicized relationships now. We have politicized the way men and women interact. That all began with feminism in the modern era of the late sixties. We politicize everything. The NFL is politicized, you name it, it’s all politicized now. And so since it’s politicized, those who use politics as a weapon then seize on everything that occurs and they use it as a weapon.
And so now male-female, man-woman, boy-girl relationships end up being weaponized by the people who have an agenda attached to them. And so if you’re going to come along, if we as a society are going to agree because of the hot-button tensions of the moment that the women must be believed, and I’m just pointing it out here. This is not yet a direct criticism of this. I’m just chronicling that this is happening where we are.
If that is going to be our standard as a society as we strive to fix this problem, if part of our decision, part of our technique to fix it is to say women never make it up, women must be believed, then it’s gonna be very, very difficult to ever defend against a surprise allegation that comes out of the blue. And what’s gonna happen is is that people are going to become more distant from one another. People are going to be suspicious and cognizant and sensitive to even the most innocently stated thing or innocently-engaged-in behavior could be grossly misunderstood and a life or future destroyed because of it.
And so people, to guard against that, are gonna clam up and they’re gonna avoid, because look what happens here. Take the case of Roy Moore and you’ve got the original allegation. Now how many of them are there? Five or six? And what’s happening? Every woman is believed because of the politicization of this. Every woman is believed, not doubted at all. It’d be the same thing with Franken except in his case we’ve got a photo, and in his case we have a body of evidence that backs up the allegation.
But there’s gonna be a time where somebody totally innocent is accused of this and isn’t gonna have a photo that would disprove it. So I’m just alerting you. I mean, you know how paralyzing the allegation of racism is. And you know how the whole subject of race, even though we have gone to war, even though 500,000-plus Americans have died to end slavery, we may as well have not taken one step toward ending slavery as the entire subject of race is used as a political weapon in America today.
And because of the immediate benefits, the perceived immediate benefits here politically of identifying somebody as a reprobate or a thug or a pig, you name it, the politically oriented are glomming onto this, and it has the potential of spiraling way out of control because, as you know, not every one of us is clean and pure as the wind-driven snow.
Not every one of us is honest. Not every one of us is satisfied with how much money we have. Not every one of us believes that the way to get more money is to work hard for it. Not every one of us believes innocent ’til proven guilty. Not every one of us is willing to offer the benefit of the doubt to people that make us mad or offend us.
We wish that was the culture we lived in. We wish that was the society we. But we don’t anymore. We live in a “get even with ’em as fast as you can-ism” kind of country now. We live in a “take ’em out before they know what hit ’em” culture now. And of course the reason we hit ’em before they know what’s hit ’em and the reason we want to take ’em out, that’s political too. It doesn’t matter if they’re nice people or not. It doesn’t matter if other people love and respect them, doesn’t matter.
If somebody can get rich quick, if somebody can get rid of a political enemy, if somebody can get rid of a president, then who cares if some small fry people fall by the wayside in the process. Now, it’s even risky to say what I just said, because it could easily be demagogued. You could easily see a story later: “Limbaugh thinks sexual harassment is never happening and is criticizing women who lie when they come forward.” And I didn’t say anything even approaching that, but this is how it now works.
If you don’t get with the groupthink, if you don’t adopt immediately the cultural and conventional wisdom, if you don’t loudly and publicly let everybody know that you think like everybody else does and you agree with what everybody else is agreeing with, then you are identifying yourself and you’re painting bull’s-eye on your back. And I of course experience this daily because I purposefully do not follow conventional wisdom precisely because it is groupthink.
And if I ever find myself thinking like the group does, I immediately grab hold of myself and say, “What am I doing wrong?” Or, “What am I not thinking through?” Or, “What’s happening?” ‘Cause never, ever do I go with the flow. Well, I can’t say never, ever. I mean, there have to be times where I agree with the majority, but I’m just saying as a general principle, when you’re talking about the political conventional wisdom of the day, I am not a practitioner. Just the opposite. I go the other way, in some cases on purpose.
But just my announced and professed concern with the quasi-warning about where we might be headed, could be and probably will be twisted into saying something I never said. And then the allegations will be out there, and I’ll have to come to you the next time and start defending myself for something I didn’t say. Whereas other people are going to be in the precarious circumstance of defending themselves against something they didn’t do. This is precisely how groupthink and politically correct tyranny triumph by literally frightening people into not saying anything that doesn’t already comport with the conventional wisdom.
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RUSH: Okay. Now, you can pooh-pooh what I said. Feel free. But let me just ask you a couple behavioral questions. As you know, the way we have been created as human beings, there are various roles that men and women have been assigned that we call human nature. And, of course, with everything there are exceptions. So nothing is uniform. But it has genuinely been accepted human behavior over the course of millennia that men chase women. Correct? Nothing wrong with that. Men face a lot of rejection. Women have to get good at doing it.
Woody Allen said, “The only difference I’ve noticed about success is being rejected by a higher class of woman. That’s all success has meant to me.” Yes, there are women who pursue men. I know this. But the general rule of thumb has been that it’s men who propose, men who ask women out on dates. The question is this: If the politicization of male-female relationships continues on its present path, and if men become afraid of even that behavior, if simply asking for a date is considered stalking or is considered harassment — and don’t think it can’t get there.
We’re on that path now. Then what happens? What do men do? Rather than run the risk of being accused of being a stalker or harasser? Because, look, sometimes you have to ask a woman out four times before she’ll say “yes.” In the old days — right, Snerdley? — sometimes it took more effort than that. What if the second time is considered stalking? What if the third time is considered harassment? So what are men gonna do if they decide, “Okay, screw it! I don’t even want to run the risk, and so they stop the pursuit?” The healthy pursuit, I mean.
What happens? Do women pick up the slack? Does it become acceptable for women to then become the, shall we say, aggressors, the person of action in a couple scenario like this? I don’t know. I have no answers to this. I could guess. But men are amazingly adaptive. Men want to be around women and will do whatever it takes to succeed. They will fake being pro-choice, for example, like in Hollywood. They’ll totally lie about it. They will say, “Oh, yeah, man! I would love to go to the museum and look at elephant tusks.” They’ll do anything, if they really want to be with a woman.
So what’s the adaptation gonna be if even the slightest approach or bit of attention runs the risk of a stalking charge or an harassment charge? Back off! Don’t do it. Find some other way. (Hello, Playboy magazine? I don’t know.” And maybe nothing. I mean, I could be, you know, exaggerating this to the point none of this is gonna happen. But I nevertheless ponder it, because take the circumstances we’re all facing now with race. I mean, look how race is permeating everything. We have ended slavery, 500,000 Americans died, and it may as well not have ever happened.
The NFL is destroying itself over the premise, essentially, that that didn’t happen, that we haven’t solved anything, and that there is still wanton lynching and murder of innocent African-American men. You know it as well as I do. And there are lies aplenty. “Hands up, don’t shoot.” It didn’t happen, and yet how many of these NFL players protesting still to this day probably think that it did? So how does that affect other people who don’t want to go anywhere near being accused of racism. They just stay away, right? It leads to segregation, in that case, in that instance. Will that happen with men and women? I doubt it.
Human nature will take over and prevail, regardless.
That’s what the feminists never understood.
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RUSH: I tell you what’s gonna happen. If asking a woman out on a date becomes sexual harassment or stalking, I tell you what’s gonna replace that: Sex robots. There are already stories of sex robots that are out there and being tested and supposedly enjoyed. Don’t laugh, folks. People are very creative and resourceful when it comes to sex.
True and true. And with the democrats putting forth the idea that they are the pro-women ones, the women are turning face really fast.
And to get into that warm, moist place I fear that 99.99999% of men will play along, or otherwise mask conservatism to appeal to the almighty va-jay-jay.
this happens now, fer god’s sake.
I don’t disagree with you. But every day, lots of people cheat on their spouses for the first time. When they left the house this morning, many had no intent to. It’s not cynical, it’s a mature understanding of an uncomfortable truth.
BODY cams, not just for cops anymore. Be sure to add a few different angles of those dash-cams too.
Didn’t think I’d see the country go swirling down this farking fast....
Another woman-hater on FR - what a shock. You guys are a dime a dozen. Get lost.
>>>Another woman-hater on FR - what a shock. You guys are a dime a dozen. Get lost.<<<
I’ll stay right here as long as I want, thank you very much. I’m not shamed that an old woman made a personal attack against me. You went for an attack when all I did was try to have a discussion. That fact that you went for the personal attack says volumes.
I think most of us agree that when mankind (includes females) DEFY GOD’S PLAN, the wheels soon fall off the wagon then chaos ensues.
The woman whom he was married to, when he became national, and they moved to NYC, had a REALLY good reason to divorce him and I bet you don't know what that was; but I do.
Instead of going to the great restaurants, museums, theatre ( and yes, Broadway was still producing great shows back then ! ), and even just the extremely fascinating historical sites that that city has, Rush refused to do ANYTHING at all! He just sat there, in their apartment, glued to his computer, ignoring her. Oh sure, the better he did, the more famous he became, and the more money he made, he moved up ( got angry at the decorator they had engaged, because he hadn't gotten a handle on things NYC back then ) but that marriage wasn't a marriage at all.
Yes, over the years, people do change...they're supposed to grow closer; not farther apart, over the years!
And as far as Rush is concerned, his wives have seen the WORST of "male nature" !
And yes, you should be able to "judge" how that relationship will be through the years, unless something horrible happens that changes one or both parties.
Sadly, many people marry for the wrong reason/s, do NOT truly know the person they do marry, and/or don't take marriage seriously anymore and believe that it's something out of a movie/fairy tale/book, that doesn't take any kind of work.
She didn't say NO, did she? < /sarc >
The truth is that even if [Kathleen Willey's] allegations are true, the president is not guilty of sexual harassment. [Clinton] is accused of having made a gross, dumb and reckless pass at a supporter during a low point in her life. She has testified that she pushed him away, later went to see him three more times in the same private setting without any repeat of unwelcome behavior and never experienced job consequences, positive or negative. In other words, Clinton took "no" for an answer.- GLORIA STEINEM in 1998In her original story, Jones essentially said the same thing. She went to then-Gov. Clinton's hotel room, where she said he asked her to perform oral sex and even dropped his trousers. She refused, and even she claims that he said something like, "Well, I don't want to make you do anything you don't want to do."
Her lawyers now allege that as a result of the incident Jones described, she was slighted in her job as a state clerical employee and even suffered long-lasting psychological damage. But there appears to be little evidence to support those accusations. As with the allegations in Willey's case, Clinton seems to have made a clumsy sexual pass, then accepted rejection.
I know about hysterical accusations quite well.
I got called a member of Aryan Nation, Christian Identity, and a child molester 20 years ago by one woman. I dropped out of the game.
Equality under the law will never occur. Wat too much Money and power for that to occur.
Distracted driver laws - cops have radar, computers, radios, .... no shit crazy no equality in the law! Fathers let them box them all in as dead beat.
“Basically you just stopped interfacing with women, and you didn’t open the doors and show the NORMAL male to female courtesies.”
Brings to mind a FReeper story from years ago talking about opening a door for elderly feminist lady. She said “I don’t need you to hold the door just because I’m a woman”. He replied, “I didn’t do it because you’re a woman, I did it because your old”.
And just like blacks, women are being taught to resent.
I like Rush and listen to him almost every day but he went nuts today with his talk about female sex robots - the kind guys on FR want and can’t afford.
I know all about the time he spent in NYC - hating it, etc. I was amazed at how terrible he decorated his NYC apartment! I never heard cheating rumors! His second marriage he chalks up to going deaf and the alienation that brings. And his third? I guess it is OK - never heard cheating rumors there either.
I guess he’s a workaholic which can damage a marriage. But 3 times?
Who says that money needs to be spent on a night out, which only lasts that night, when in a relationship / marriage?
What if you are married to another woman and get your secret girlfriend pregnant ?
What if you impregnate your 12 year old sex slave that you keep locked in a cage in the basement ?
Why do you take general comments personally? When women say "kill all men," I don't take it personally. I just think they're incredibly stupid, and pray they never sucker a man into fathering a child, not that they'd want to keep it. Unless the guy has money, and they keep the kid and weigh anchor into the guy's wallet.
He was earning big bucks, by anyone's standard,at that time, so spending money for something wasn't the problem! Yet he had NO interest in doing any but sitting at his computer and/or "preparing" for the next day's show...which, truth be told was far better back then, than it has been in decades.
And with your attitude about money and not paying attention to a wife, I doubt that you are in any kind of happy relationship.
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