Posted on 11/14/2017 6:15:21 AM PST by davikkm
Wealthy Romans imported cheap labor (slaves) to work their estates, displacing the native Romans. They eventually ran out of native Romans who had any interest in fighting to preserve Rome.
The Roman Empire began with Romes conquest of Ostia, and ended nearly 2000 years later with the Fall of Constantinople.
Gibbon blamed the Fall of Rome (the western half) on the rise of Christianity.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=8077
http://www.google.com/search?q=Edward%20Gibbon%20Blamed%20Rise%20Of%20Christianity&spell=1&ie=UTF-8
Islam?
Interesting that during Clinton’s impeachment the Dems went out and found all types of dirt on the Republicans. Now the good guys need to get the dirt on the Republicans. Bannon should offer rewards to any woman who can claim sex assault charges against the usual suspects.
Perspective. To Democrats it doesn’t look like “Decline and Fall” because they are getting tons of free crap. They’ve never had it better.
The Left needs the Right to pay for its programs. The Right doesn’t need the Left for anything. This fact should scare the crap out of the Left. That it does not is the Republicans fault. And it is time to add Conservative media’s fault as well.
There has been a 30 year plan put in place to steal the country by importing foreigners.
The final amnesty that would cement the Bush Plan for North Mexico (aka USA) into place has been sought repeatedly since 2006. They sold us Rubio to get the last one in 2013.
We have been prevented from electing anyone who would side with US and the rule of law.
Trump had the wealth and fame to break through the Bush blockade at the RNC.
They are not going to allow that to happen again.
The most important thing to the Uniparty is protecting the demographic changes they have made to the country against the will of the citizens.
That’s what drives the NeverTrump, the media and the Democrats hatred of Trump, it is an extension of their hatred of US.
Article is right on the money.
“Gibbon blamed the Fall of Rome (the western half) on the rise of Christianity.”
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Much as I enjoy reading Gibbons, Christians did **not** cause the western Roman Empire to fall while at the same time they kept the Eastern Empire going for another thousand years.
The real causes were politics and even more basic: economics.
The great wealth of the Roman Empire was in the East, while the West by itself could not support the military forces necessary to defend it’s borders.
The Western Empire ran out of money long before it was overrun by barbarians.
I’ve thought that for years, after reading a book on the rise and fall of the Roman Empire. Many parallels.
The surprising thing about the Fall of Rome is not what it had, but what it did not have. The whole thing should not have endured like that, given its lack of a statutory and consistent system of succession for emperor and senators; lack of any kind of general system of education, although general literacy may not have been as bad as often made out to be; lack of a postal system; lack of a banking system, other than private lending such as also developed in the Middle Ages. The house next to the House of the Vettei in Pompeii belonged to such a lender.
The economic system became more market-oriented as time wore on, reaching a decentralized and robust height during the anarchic third century A.D., when multiple capitals ruling various regions of the empire struggled with each other and against the influx of migrating peoples. Roman seagoing trade was generally far-flung — China, SE Asia, India, Africa, the Baltic, Ireland, perhaps the Americas (there’s an ancient wreck off Rio, loaded with amphorae) — and overland trade reached deep into the barbarian hinterlands beyond any of the Empire’s borders.
Late in the third century, the rule of Carausius was a boom time for Britain. He built a chain of forts to hem in the first Anglo/Saxon/Jute settlements, which were populated by reavers operating as mercenaries for Carausius. The western half of the empire was at the receiving end of the steppe, historically the superhighway leading in both directions out of central Asia. It had an impact on Constantinople as well, but the terrain to the east, in Anatolia, worked to the advantage for a while, that is, until their Egyptian breadbasket and Parthian rivals were overwhelmed by Islam.
http://www.badassoftheweek.com/basil.html
The traditional foundation was in the 8th c, possible, but unproven; the conquest of Ostia was by 400 BC; the generally accepted, definitive Fall of Rome was in AD 476, or something like 1200 years after its foundation, but definitely almost 900 years after the conquest of Ostia; the Turks took Constantinople in 1453. Just what kind of effin standard do you think you should set?
Ancient Rome was bigger than previously thought, archaeologists find
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3145694/posts?page=9#9
Report: Ancient Roman graveyard found in suburban Copenhagen
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1909864/posts
Buddha statue from 6th c found in Viking hoard in Helgo, Sweden
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1391864/posts?page=9#9
Unlike the guy from the People's Front of Judea when he wrote "Romanes eunt domus" and then was made to write the correct version 100 times.
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