Posted on 11/06/2017 5:50:18 AM PST by Zakeet
... given that Kelley was given a "bad-conduct discharge" from the U.S. Air Force in 2014, which is not the same as a dishonorable discharge, contrary to previous reports, and spent a year in jail after beating his wife and child in 2012--how did he obtain firearms? Yes, a dishonorable discharge would also make him a prohibited person, but either way, Kelley is a banned person; he a convicted domestic abuser.
Somehow Kelley was able to pass a background check and obtain a rifle at Academy Sports & Outdoors in April of 2016? Yet, I’m sure the search for answers on that front will be buried or lost by the incoming bout of explosive gun control diarrhea from the Left. If they want to push for more background checks, they should know that domestic violence convictions bar you from owning firearms. That provision has been on the books for quite some time. And there is no debate (or at least there shouldn't be) when you're convicted of beating your wife, girlfriend, or and in this case--your spouse and kids--you deserve to have your gun rights stripped.
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Bad conduct No, Dishonorable Yes.
They don’t ask if it was anything other than Honorable, they ask specifically for Dishonorable.
Reports are that he didn’t pass a background check in TX and was denied permission to own a weapon.
“Doesn’t a bad conduct discharge (BCD) also prevent someone from buying a gun?”
Yes, because it requires a military/federal conviction.
Reggie Love?
The report I heard said he was denied a carry permit. There are many people who can own funs but do not qualify for a LTC.
The case files should have all the specifics. I too wonder about the overly broad definition of ‘domestic violence’ when it comes to local law enforcement. Assault tells me much more and is still overly broad. Maybe we should have concepts like ‘domestic violence — assault’, so that it can’t be used scurrilously like I suspect happens more often that you would think.
Didn’t he also have a DD from the military? That should have also prevented him from buying a firearm.
The UCMJ does not have a specific charging article for domestic violence. He was charged under Article 128 for assault on his spouse and child. That is domestic violence, he should not have passed a background check if the NICS had the correct data on him.
I heRd the governor say the guy either lied on the application or left questions unanswered. The article says he bought it at Academy store.
Read: His dishonorable discharge was never sent to the FBI.
He bought it first hand at Academy Sports.
Just heard on Bill Hemmer’s show that he DIDN’T pass background!
Assaulting your wife and child isn’t domestic violence in your opinion?
Academy Sports.
Let’s see..
Domestic Violence Conviction... No Gun
Dishonorable Military Discharge... No Gun
Felony Conviction...... No Gun
Gun control is a joke... enforce the laws on the books.
Radio reported the Perp lied on 4473.
Well jeez! I’m pretty sure all of the shooters in Chicago passed background checks! /s
Assaulting your wife and child isn’t domestic violence in your opinion?
That is NOT what I said and you Know it.
It depends entirely on the Actual Charge(penal Code) he was convicted under. There are Separate Penal Codes for Assault and Domestic Violence, pleading guilty to simple assault in lieu of being found guilty domestic violence is rather common.
You have to actually look at the penal code he was formally convicted under.
Correct on both accounts. No new law would’ve prevented this. A murderer’s gonna do what a murderer’s gonna do.
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