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Texas church shooting leaves many dead
BBC ^ | 11/05/17 | BBC

Posted on 11/05/2017 12:08:31 PM PST by Simon Green

At least 27 people have died after a gunman opened fire at a church in Texas during Sunday services.

The attack happened at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs in Wilson County.

A police commissioner at the scene confirmed that at least 27 people had died. Several others are reported to be injured.

The San Antonio FBI branch said its agents had been deployed, and there was no indication of the gunman's motive.

The FBI also said that while only one shooter was reported, it was looking into other possibilities.

Local ABC affiliate KSAT 12 reported the gunman entered the church at around 11:30 local time (17:30 GMT). It also said he had been killed in the aftermath.

Photos and video from the scene showed the area taped off by local law enforcement.

A number of helicopters have arrived to transport the wounded, KSAT 12 reporter Max Massey said.

Texas governor Greg Abbott said: "Our prayers are with all who were harmed by this evil act. Our thanks to law enforcement for their response."

He said more details would be released by the Texas Department of Public Safety shortly.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: churchshooting; devinpatrickkelley; sanantonio; shooting; sutherlandsprings
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To: Simon Green

Not muzzie, not anti 2A conspiracy, not false flag. But I want to know what medications this guy is/was on.


221 posted on 11/05/2017 1:26:26 PM PST by Paine in the Neck ( Socialism consumes EVERYTHING!)
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To: SE Mom

on MSNBC, The Pastor of a nearby church says the Pastor and his wife were out of town and they’re heading back right now and he declined to comment on the daughter’s death.


222 posted on 11/05/2017 1:26:44 PM PST by relee (Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Cess Outdoors She let the cat out of the bag his name is Cris Ward. 40 minutes ago•2 TheSolution Cess Outdoors he didn't do that I hate media, that is my brother in law and I know for a fact that he wouldn't do that 8 minutes ago• Shara Leverett TheSolution but it wasnt media. It was a witness. 4 minutes ago•1 Cess Outdoors TheSolution I hope he did not.the witness said it. 1 minute ago• Almost Serious WTH, insanity has no limits... 22 minutes ago•
223 posted on 11/05/2017 1:27:24 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: exnavy

I forgot to cite where I got my info and I will now - like I said NRA site doesn’t state about Michigan. Where are you getting your info?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Michigan - states you can carry in church, synagogue, etc if they allow it.


224 posted on 11/05/2017 1:28:04 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: exnavy

In Kansas they have constitutional carry but for years certain buildings including churches were allowed to post the evil image of a gun with the slashy thing through it. Then the new law says that unless there is formal security, i.e., a metal detector and a couple of armed guards, then they can’t keep guns out. The libs here in Douglas county are melting down. hehe


225 posted on 11/05/2017 1:28:23 PM PST by Mercat (I know my redeemer lives.)
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To: WildHighlander57

What in the hell is this post of yours? I’m confused to what this all is you have posted.


226 posted on 11/05/2017 1:28:43 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: All

We should all be like Kennesaw, Georgia. Law that everyone owns a gun take classes to protect yourself...

They may rarely punish their citizens for choosing not to own a gun, but their loose mandates are more about making a statement than enforcing a law. Kennesaw has the most well-known gun mandate in the country. In 1982, a law was passed requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm.Jul 28, 2016


227 posted on 11/05/2017 1:29:04 PM PST by DAVEY CROCKETT (Thank you Free Republic. Thank you President Donald J Trump, Greatest election Ever.)
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To: exnavy
That is not a true statement.

Where's your proof? I take it you didn't scan the report I linked in a previous comment. Here: Concealed Carry in Churches. Jacob Paulsen's 2016 map is easy to understand, and no one claims his research is wrong. Two states prohibit it, and another eight states and DC require permission from the church to conceal carry. Most states allow it.

228 posted on 11/05/2017 1:29:46 PM PST by WXRGina (Repeal and DON'T replace!)
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To: AnalogReigns

I’m reading that Chris Ward is not the shooter and that his wife and child are possibly missing.


229 posted on 11/05/2017 1:30:12 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the SEALs of Extortion 17 - and God Bless The United States of America.)
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To: exnavy

This church was in Texas. These people were perfectly free to defend themselves.

Your argument is like the liberal argument that “we need more gun laws”, when its clear a new gun law would have made no difference.


230 posted on 11/05/2017 1:30:17 PM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: exnavy

I always have, and will.


231 posted on 11/05/2017 1:31:25 PM PST by onedoug
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To: exnavy

That’s simply not true.

Please stop spreading false information about gun rights.


232 posted on 11/05/2017 1:31:29 PM PST by sipow
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To: ozarkgirl

You miss my point. Repeal all laws nation wide that infringe. I am a CPL holder in michigan, it says right on the permit, no to several places.


233 posted on 11/05/2017 1:31:39 PM PST by exnavy (America: love it or leave it.)
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To: In God I trust

What is even remotely funny about the subject of this thread or made to be funny ?


234 posted on 11/05/2017 1:31:55 PM PST by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: exnavy

You guys want to go argue somewhere else?


235 posted on 11/05/2017 1:32:21 PM PST by In God I trust
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To: pax_et_bonum

Friend of hers on Facebook said she was taken to the hospital in critical condition.


236 posted on 11/05/2017 1:33:09 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: relee; maggief

SAPD bomb squad checking SUV in Guadalupe Co in connection with Sutherland Springs Church Shooting News4SA pic.twitter.com/c3s9aDg9xG
1:25 PM - 5 Nov 2017

WTH?????


237 posted on 11/05/2017 1:33:12 PM PST by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Dawn53Fl

The church I go to in Texas has either a 30.06 or 30.07 sign, but also has a security team. One is a uniformed Houston Police Department officer. The head of the team is retired HPD. You can tell who is on the team by the earpieces. And they are armed.


238 posted on 11/05/2017 1:33:16 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

If memory serves, the wife’s coworkers were getting involved and egging her on against her husband. This is what was reported and what the husband alleged and why he went there and shot the place up.


239 posted on 11/05/2017 1:33:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SE Mom

SOP to treat vehicles, home etc as booby-trapped when it’s a mass shooter


240 posted on 11/05/2017 1:35:20 PM PST by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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