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NYC may require ‘death warning’ to accompany firearm permits
Guns.com ^ | 11/01/17 | Chris Eger

Posted on 11/01/2017 7:34:53 AM PDT by Simon Green

The New York City Council on Tuesday approved a measure requiring the Police Department to warn applicants for firearm licenses and permits about suicide and death.

The bill, Intro 1724, would instruct the NYPD to provide applicants for firearm licenses and permits with a mandatory health warning on death and suicide risks. It passed 44-2 and heads to Mayor Bill de Blasio’s desk for signature.

NYC Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito prefaced the body’s vote this week by equating it to the Surgeon General’s warning on cigarettes, hoping to ignite “a national movement” on the risks of gun ownership.

“A majority of Americans believe that having a gun in their home makes them safer, and numerous studies have conclusively demonstrated the opposite is true,” Mark-Viverito said. “The risk of suicide is higher in homes with guns. The risk of homicide is higher in homes where an abusive partner owns a gun and occupants are significantly more likely to die from accidental gunshot injuries in homes with guns.”

The warning would advise that: “The presence of a firearm in the home has been associated with an increased risk of death to self and others, including an increased risk of suicide, death during domestic violence incidents, and unintentional deaths to children and others.”

A fiscal impact analysis found the move wouldn’t cost the city anything as existing resources would be used to implement the legislation.

The measure passed the Council’s Public Safety Committee on Monday 6-1 with the committee chair, Councilwoman Vanessa Gibson, saying, “these gun warnings are the first step to changing the public’s conversation.”

NYPD legislative affairs director Oleg Chernyavsky told the committee earlier this month that the agency supports the proposal. He said the agency currently provides applicants with a pamphlet on state and local gun laws, including safe storage requirements, but doesn’t issue a warning on potential risks from the misuse of firearms.

The city of 8.5 million has just over 41,000 people licensed to possess firearms — with just 2,500 of those having very rare carry permits — and has among the strongest licensing requirements in the nation, The New York Times reported.

If signed by de Blasio into law, New York City would not be the first to implement mandatory gun warnings.

California has required warnings on firearms certificates and instructional pamphlets since 1993. Current law mandates packaging of any firearm to carry a statement warning that children are attracted to and can operate firearms and that if a child obtains and uses one, the owner could be subject to fines and imprisonment.

Last year, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee signed a measure that aims to help drop the number of suicides through a partnership of pharmacies and gun dealers to develop materials and training to spot signs of someone at peril from what they term the “nation’s most preventable form of death” in a state where the suicide rate is 14 percent higher than the national average. Among the mandates is that the state Department of Fish and Wildlife update their firearm law pamphlets with suicide prevention information.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: Simon Green

***Notice how they always call this sort of thing a “first step”?***

First step began in 1932. Then 1968, 1971,1976,1981, 1985,1990,1992, and so on and on.


21 posted on 11/01/2017 8:06:51 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Simon Green

Why bother with the warning? The NYPD doesn’t issue firearm permits to commoners anyway.


22 posted on 11/01/2017 8:07:36 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Simon Green

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — totally illegal.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.


23 posted on 11/01/2017 8:08:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: mazda77

24 posted on 11/01/2017 8:10:59 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Every Californian who supported "sanctuary state" has blood and ashes on his/her hands)
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To: Simon Green

Add the warning: “Death by sudden jihadi syndrome or knockout game may occur while within NYC limits”.

Got that?


25 posted on 11/01/2017 8:15:43 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: Simon Green

Maybe they should require notices in vehicles that “potential deaths may occur if used to run down people”.


26 posted on 11/01/2017 8:20:03 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Simon Green

Well, if a gun COULDN’T cause death, why have the thing?

Yet more virtue signalling from the hopeless, brainless blissninnies. As we say south of the Mason-Dixon Line: “Well, bless their hearts.”


27 posted on 11/01/2017 8:20:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: mazda77

(Click The Pic)

28 posted on 11/01/2017 8:21:40 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Simon Green

I’ll bet a >gasp< from this bunch would happen if told that in WA you can buy 40rd magazines for assault rifles and they don’t have a warning on the magazine about “if you load this magazine with ammunition and insert it into the gun it has the potential of killing people should the little hook under the receiver be pulled backwards multiple times and pointed at people”


29 posted on 11/01/2017 8:23:04 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: factoryrat

Warning on Sneakers “ White people be forewarned, do not wear Air Jordans in the Ghetto or Hood!”


30 posted on 11/01/2017 8:27:12 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (" Winning not Whining"!)
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To: Simon Green

The same warning is on cars, right?


31 posted on 11/01/2017 8:32:48 AM PDT by RushCrush ( Conservative stuck in Chiraq.)
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To: Yaelle

and frozen ham hocks


32 posted on 11/01/2017 8:33:12 AM PDT by RushCrush ( Conservative stuck in Chiraq.)
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To: Yaelle
And large eggplants.

What about pointed sticks?

33 posted on 11/01/2017 8:37:51 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Keepin' it analog.)
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To: Simon Green

Muslim truck rentals?


34 posted on 11/01/2017 8:39:18 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Simon Green

It should be imperative to ban all rental trucks especially automatic ones


35 posted on 11/01/2017 8:41:25 AM PDT by okie 54
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To: Simon Green

Last year, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee signed a measure that aims to help drop the number of suicides through a partnership of pharmacies and gun dealers ...

[How about between drug dealers and gang member gun thieves?]

...in a state where the suicide rate is 14 percent higher than the national average...

[That would include Seattle]

Among the mandates is that the state Department of Fish and Wildlife update their firearm law pamphlets with suicide prevention information.

[For whom, the deer?]


36 posted on 11/01/2017 8:52:40 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Brought to you from Turtle Island, otherwise known as 'So-Called North America')
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To: Simon Green
...over 41,000 people licensed to possess firearms... This always bugs me. A license is required for a Second Amendment right that, by the way, says "shall not be infringed." Are there licenses required for other rights like speech or the press? Didn't think so.
37 posted on 11/01/2017 8:57:27 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Ban "gun free" zones. They are magnets for mass killers.)
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To: bigbob

When do the warnings go on rental trucks?


38 posted on 11/01/2017 9:06:47 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Simon Green

“”in a state where the suicide rate is 14 percent higher than the national average””

Well, if someone living in WA has no other way to leave that place, then this is what they are left with. I don’t know as I believe their stats - anyone can repeat that nonsense but back it up? Probably not!


39 posted on 11/01/2017 9:07:34 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Simon Green
The label should read: 'Warning: This gun, protected by the second amendment, in the hands of mentally deranged liberals, is very dangerous to non criminals. However, the gun, in the hands of America loving Conservatives, is dangerous to criminals, Muslims, anti American illegals and animals. Make sure your hand is in right hands.'

How's that for a warning label? 😀

40 posted on 11/01/2017 9:22:53 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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