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NYC may require ‘death warning’ to accompany firearm permits
Guns.com ^ | 11/01/17 | Chris Eger

Posted on 11/01/2017 7:34:53 AM PDT by Simon Green

The New York City Council on Tuesday approved a measure requiring the Police Department to warn applicants for firearm licenses and permits about suicide and death.

The bill, Intro 1724, would instruct the NYPD to provide applicants for firearm licenses and permits with a mandatory health warning on death and suicide risks. It passed 44-2 and heads to Mayor Bill de Blasio’s desk for signature.

NYC Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito prefaced the body’s vote this week by equating it to the Surgeon General’s warning on cigarettes, hoping to ignite “a national movement” on the risks of gun ownership.

“A majority of Americans believe that having a gun in their home makes them safer, and numerous studies have conclusively demonstrated the opposite is true,” Mark-Viverito said. “The risk of suicide is higher in homes with guns. The risk of homicide is higher in homes where an abusive partner owns a gun and occupants are significantly more likely to die from accidental gunshot injuries in homes with guns.”

The warning would advise that: “The presence of a firearm in the home has been associated with an increased risk of death to self and others, including an increased risk of suicide, death during domestic violence incidents, and unintentional deaths to children and others.”

A fiscal impact analysis found the move wouldn’t cost the city anything as existing resources would be used to implement the legislation.

The measure passed the Council’s Public Safety Committee on Monday 6-1 with the committee chair, Councilwoman Vanessa Gibson, saying, “these gun warnings are the first step to changing the public’s conversation.”

NYPD legislative affairs director Oleg Chernyavsky told the committee earlier this month that the agency supports the proposal. He said the agency currently provides applicants with a pamphlet on state and local gun laws, including safe storage requirements, but doesn’t issue a warning on potential risks from the misuse of firearms.

The city of 8.5 million has just over 41,000 people licensed to possess firearms — with just 2,500 of those having very rare carry permits — and has among the strongest licensing requirements in the nation, The New York Times reported.

If signed by de Blasio into law, New York City would not be the first to implement mandatory gun warnings.

California has required warnings on firearms certificates and instructional pamphlets since 1993. Current law mandates packaging of any firearm to carry a statement warning that children are attracted to and can operate firearms and that if a child obtains and uses one, the owner could be subject to fines and imprisonment.

Last year, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee signed a measure that aims to help drop the number of suicides through a partnership of pharmacies and gun dealers to develop materials and training to spot signs of someone at peril from what they term the “nation’s most preventable form of death” in a state where the suicide rate is 14 percent higher than the national average. Among the mandates is that the state Department of Fish and Wildlife update their firearm law pamphlets with suicide prevention information.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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Notice how they always call this sort of thing a "first step"? It's rare for gun banners to openly reveal their true agenda.
1 posted on 11/01/2017 7:34:53 AM PDT by Simon Green
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We need the face-palm image now. Everyone but those making the rules are stupid. Right, we got it.


2 posted on 11/01/2017 7:36:12 AM PDT by mazda77
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Maybe they could expand this to death warning billboards required at all mosque entrances.


3 posted on 11/01/2017 7:37:23 AM PDT by redcatcherb412
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“Shooting yourself or someone else with this may cause serious injury or death”.

Yeah, NYC needs this.


4 posted on 11/01/2017 7:37:27 AM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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Will they require a death warning on all Home Depot rental trucks?


5 posted on 11/01/2017 7:38:56 AM PDT by Obadiah
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Reminds you of the anti-smoking lobby doesn’t it? “All we want is our own place in a restaurant”.


6 posted on 11/01/2017 7:40:13 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Obadiah; HarleyLady27; vette6387; left that other site; unkus; SkyPilot; ZULU; sheik yerbouty; ...

How about a warning to not trust the US Congress especially Ryan and Turtle Face and their Elitist cohorts!!


7 posted on 11/01/2017 7:41:42 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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My mind’s eye sees a mandated sticker on the driver’s door window on all Home Depot rental trucks: “DEATH WARNING! Do not drive on bicycle paths. Do not hit pedestrians.”


8 posted on 11/01/2017 7:42:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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"Aw, man! That warning can't be right! Stuff like that never happens on TV!" :)
9 posted on 11/01/2017 7:42:51 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Will they require a death warning on all Home Depot rental trucks?


No. On all trucks.
And cars.
And hammers.
And baseball bats.
And large eggplants.


10 posted on 11/01/2017 7:43:01 AM PDT by Yaelle
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Home Depot and the NY DMV might want to put some of those Death Warnings on pick up truck rental agreements and license plates.
11 posted on 11/01/2017 7:43:36 AM PDT by skimbell
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I demand a death warning on matches and high places. Do it for the chirruns.


12 posted on 11/01/2017 7:51:49 AM PDT by bagster (The North remembers.)
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If it were not a “first step” sort of thing, I would just laugh and say “get ‘er done.” New Yorkers probably don’t know that something hard comes flying out of the end of these things very fast after a real loud noise occurs.


13 posted on 11/01/2017 7:51:54 AM PDT by oldplayer
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>>Maybe they could expand this to death warning billboards required at all mosque entrances.

And all ‘speech permits’ for Democrats since there have been 100+ million deaths from communism.


14 posted on 11/01/2017 7:52:58 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~u/base)
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To: Obadiah

This warning needs to be on everything from cottonballs to tall buildings.


15 posted on 11/01/2017 7:54:07 AM PDT by taterjay
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This is beyond the stupidest thing I have ever heard. What next? cars? bridges? Doctor’s prescription? Kitchen knives baseball bats? Liberal politicians?


16 posted on 11/01/2017 7:54:38 AM PDT by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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took words out of my mouth. Yep, we need to warn against Home Depot trucks.


17 posted on 11/01/2017 7:55:21 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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There needs to be a death warning on abortion


18 posted on 11/01/2017 7:58:06 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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“A majority of Americans believe that having a gun in their home makes them safer, and numerous studies have conclusively demonstrated the opposite is true,”


The suicide data is based on false assumptions. It may be true that households that have guns are at a higher risk of accidental gunshot injuries. Hard to have an accidental gunshot injury if you do not have a gun. But the risks are incredibly low.

As for guns making households safer, there are several studies that indicate this is true. Burglaries are much lower where there are more guns, murder rates are lower, home invasions are lower.

With about a million or more instances a year where guns are used to prevent crimes and for self defense, there is a clear lack of evidence for he posited statement.


19 posted on 11/01/2017 7:59:59 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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How about a warning that “No Gun Zones” will not protect you from people that break the law and want to kill you?


20 posted on 11/01/2017 8:05:51 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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