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“When Kiewit put in the bid, only 30 percent of the project had been designed,” she said. “When you get on the construction site, there’s a lot more information that you glean.”

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Jaaa... like there's gold in them thar open ended gubamint contracts..

and to think it all started with a few little cracks.. they have pictures.. Jaaa. Oh vell.

1 posted on 10/19/2017 6:55:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Oh come one, you knew this was coming.. nothing is cheap in California.. except the politicians..


2 posted on 10/19/2017 6:57:27 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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“When Kiewit put in the bid, only 30 percent of the project had been designed,” she said. “When you get on the construction site, there’s a lot more information that you glean.”

The gubmint is taking competitive bids when they know the bidding companies don’t have all the info they need?


3 posted on 10/19/2017 6:59:18 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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So who is paying—California or the feds? California is broke and the feds are broke, but only the feds can print interest bearing fiat money.


4 posted on 10/19/2017 7:00:21 PM PDT by Fungi (What the hell is a fungus?)
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find a hill blast it to fill dirt status and repair the dam.


5 posted on 10/19/2017 7:00:41 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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Yep...standard government “scope creep”. Been there dealing with not-too-bright government employees not knowing what they need to ask for.


6 posted on 10/19/2017 7:03:21 PM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY.)
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Work continues to repair the main spillway at the Oroville Dam in Oroville, Calif., on Thursday, Oct. 19, 2017.

Hundreds of construction workers are working to rebuild the damage from February's storms which caused the evacuation of 188,000 people.

(Laura A. Oda/Bay Area News Group)


7 posted on 10/19/2017 7:03:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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8 posted on 10/19/2017 7:04:47 PM PDT by 4Liberty (MSM = Democrat' PR firm. Mainstream "news" = Fiat news.)
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Guess they thought maintenance could be kicked down the road?


11 posted on 10/19/2017 7:06:23 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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No money for critical infrastructure but plenty for illegal aliens and %70 billion for a train.


15 posted on 10/19/2017 7:15:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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I could not conveniently find the story from the link.

That said, Mister Jerry Brown owns this debacle.

It is his legacy (besides that sanctuary state thingy.)

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17 posted on 10/19/2017 7:17:43 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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I've been following this since almost day one on "blancolirio", and have found it BY FAR, the best detailed coverage of the oroville dam saga. The guy doing it is extremely thorough and knowledgable (also an airline pilot on the side, lol). Updates are made about once or twice per week.

If you are inclined, enjoy...here is the latest.

18 posted on 10/19/2017 7:24:14 PM PDT by C210N (It is easier to fool the people than convince them that they have been fooled)
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The Hoover Dam project cost $49 million in early 1930’s dollars.

If you believe US Fed.gov inflation statistics, that is $850 million in today’s dollars - for the entire project.


20 posted on 10/19/2017 7:36:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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Oroville Dam: Cost to repair spillways nearly doubles in price to $500 million

Can we express the equivalent of that figure in terms of a number of non-essential union-thug bureaucrats (annual salary)?

21 posted on 10/19/2017 7:41:23 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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Should be viewed as an example of wealth transfer to CA’s illegal aliens...


22 posted on 10/19/2017 7:42:47 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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My reaction to this is that it is not too late to fire Kiewit and hire Bechtel. Get superior performance for better cost control, better quality control and tighter schedule control. Of course, this takes big brass ones to make the call and this is way tied up into government tentacles.

Pretty good chance that Kiewit is over their head on this project, I've seen it before with other engineering-construction companies on larger projects than this that turned into dumpster fires of cost overrun and lagging quality control forcing excessive do-overs and questionable shortcuts.

Also, a doubling of the cost? Give me a break. Every construction project has unforeseen situations pop up, which usually increase cost rather than decrease. This is what contingency funding is set aside for. However, to have a doubling of cost, it seems likely to me to be some combination of the quality of engineering and estimating up front and/or the business strategy of pricing things to low ball then make up on expensive change orders. Change orders really can turn cost control and schedule control upside down. You make one engineering change and then that cascades into redoing the engineering for 10 items downstream that are affected, which cascades into changing a 100 items downstream on the procurement and scheduling. What a game......

24 posted on 10/19/2017 8:48:29 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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Expect $1.5 billion (+) before it’s done.


29 posted on 10/20/2017 6:12:52 AM PDT by hattend
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