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Oroville Dam: Cost to repair spillways nearly doubles in price to $500 million
Mercury News ^ | 10/19/17 | Paul Rogers

Posted on 10/19/2017 6:55:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge
Oroville Dam: Cost to repair spillways nearly doubles in price to $500 million

Can we express the equivalent of that figure in terms of a number of non-essential union-thug bureaucrats (annual salary)?

21 posted on 10/19/2017 7:41:23 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, RINOs...same thing)
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To: NormsRevenge

Should be viewed as an example of wealth transfer to CA’s illegal aliens...


22 posted on 10/19/2017 7:42:47 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ifinnegan
The gubmint is taking competitive bids when they know the bidding companies don’t have all the info they need?

It's California! That's the way they roll!!

23 posted on 10/19/2017 7:52:28 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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My reaction to this is that it is not too late to fire Kiewit and hire Bechtel. Get superior performance for better cost control, better quality control and tighter schedule control. Of course, this takes big brass ones to make the call and this is way tied up into government tentacles.

Pretty good chance that Kiewit is over their head on this project, I've seen it before with other engineering-construction companies on larger projects than this that turned into dumpster fires of cost overrun and lagging quality control forcing excessive do-overs and questionable shortcuts.

Also, a doubling of the cost? Give me a break. Every construction project has unforeseen situations pop up, which usually increase cost rather than decrease. This is what contingency funding is set aside for. However, to have a doubling of cost, it seems likely to me to be some combination of the quality of engineering and estimating up front and/or the business strategy of pricing things to low ball then make up on expensive change orders. Change orders really can turn cost control and schedule control upside down. You make one engineering change and then that cascades into redoing the engineering for 10 items downstream that are affected, which cascades into changing a 100 items downstream on the procurement and scheduling. What a game......

24 posted on 10/19/2017 8:48:29 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Just like any remodel, time and materials to bring it up to code...which wasn’t done before. I was there as they built it but didn’t know they were making money by skimping on construction costs. Most of those who profited are long gone.


25 posted on 10/19/2017 9:56:56 PM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: 4Liberty; Grampa Dave; NormsRevenge

Great Graphic!!!


26 posted on 10/19/2017 10:16:26 PM PDT by SierraWasp (BLM = Black LIEs Matter!!! Used to be known as "Bureau of Land Management")
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To: txnativegop

There’s a lot of slurry mix (if not straight concrete) under the actual spillway structure slab. The should actually have a mobile plant out there making concrete. Whoever is testing that concrete is going to have a LOT of cylinders to break!


27 posted on 10/19/2017 11:42:31 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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,,,If you believe US Fed.gov inflation statistics, that is $850 million in today’s dollars - for the entire project...

Just one more reason to never believe the government's inflation figures.

Over any considerable period of time, inflation is always worse than they say.

28 posted on 10/19/2017 11:43:20 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: NormsRevenge

Expect $1.5 billion (+) before it’s done.


29 posted on 10/20/2017 6:12:52 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Hootowl99

I’m surprised DiFi and her hubby didn’t get a piece of the action.. That is a dam shame. for Tutor-Perini inc. that is.

Mother Nature is not very forgiving. All it took was a few cracks.. add massive runoff, and ya end up with more cracks in it than the hottub at the Playboy Mansion on Friday night.

I hear ya on the engineering .. to correct flaws of the original design, they rip out and basically have to rebuild big chunks of the spillway... and that ain’t cheap and was never originally factored in..

I hate change orders, been there , done that.. never on anything this big tho.


30 posted on 10/20/2017 9:29:18 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Monthly Donors Rock!!!)
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