A toy for the wealthy?
Posted on 10/17/2017 10:52:16 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
A global tipping point for electric cars could come as early as 2022, as battery costs decrease and concerns about range and infrastructure ease. That’s from analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch, who in a little over a year’s time have turned even more optimistic about the future dominance of electric cars over internal-combustion vehicles. In a Tuesday note, the analysts forecast that one in three cars will be purely electric by 2030; their July 2016 prediction was one in 10 by the same year. “There are several factors converging that have led us to revise our thinking — a combination of changing customer preferences, increasingly viable product, regulation, and infrastructure,” they said in the note.
(Excerpt) Read more at marketwatch.com ...
“There are over 168,000 Gas Stations in the US... not pumps.. “
LOL. I remember back in the 70’s waiting in line on the assigned day and only being allowed 10 gallonsfitzg@aol.com.
And driving on the interstate on a Sunday when most were shutdown!
Your point?
There are over 168,000 gas stations in the United States, and your charging station is the equivalent of a PUMP which means take that number and multiply it by about 8, and there are well over 1,000,000 gas pumps in the US... Tesla’s 10,000 charging stations in parking garages of hotels isn’t remotely the infrastructure needed to replace combustion.
Electric is a commuter, toy for the wealthy or second vehicle.. its niche and it is NOT about to be something different anytime soon.
If you have to plan your trip around where you are going to find your fuel... well, you aren’t replacing combustion that way. Eventually electricity may get there.... but its NOT EVEN CLOSE today, and the idea it will be 90% of the market in 30 years is pie in the sky dreaming you tell folks to get them to give you money... Its not reality.
for 90% saturation of a market to a new technology, you have to BEAT hands down BEAT the existing technology and Electric is nowhere near that... Not on any measure, it cant even MEET existing combustion... The only way you get 90% market rollover to a new technology short of regulatory force is to BEAT the existing tech, and electric is nowhere near that. It may get there, but its not even in the ballpark yet.
Hybrid tech is now nearly 20 years old, and its complete cumulative sales volume is about 25% of 1 years worth of car sales.... So in 17 years they have cumulatively sold about 1/4 of the combustion vehicles sold EVERY SINGLE YEAR... Pure Electric isn’t anywhere near hybrid on market penetration so to believe in 30 years it will be 90% of the market is just wishful thinking. Only mandating the outlaw of combustion would make that anything close to a reality.
Great fun when these fanatics get going in a thread. IIRC, on of them acts the same on Apple threads now and then.
>>No hybrid
Hybrids are great but the article claims that your hybrid will go the way of the dinosaur by 2050 too.
Same ones that do not want nuclear power plants because the electricity they produce is radioactive.
Not in my home! Think of the children.
How about mobile recharging “stations” we could make so many different kinds specifically designed to soak these green weenies. We could have one that is like a KC135 that drags several recharging drogues they could approach and recharge while they drive and others that would be like a car carrier. What could possibly go wrong?
“Tesla’s 10,000 charging stations in parking garages of hotels isn’t remotely the infrastructure needed to replace combustion.”
Teslas 10,000 charging stations are independent facilities NOT tied to parking garages or hotels.
Add up all the EV charging stations in the U.S. and you are in the hundreds of millions.
Every home and business that has a 120v 20 amp circuit is a charging station!
Free Supercharger use was a loss-leader type sales promotional gimmick for the early model cars. Model’s S and X are limited to 400 kWh before charges apply. 400 kWh—your mileage will decrease with AC or heater.
“Tesla details Supercharging fees for new buyers”
https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/12/14257914/tesla-supercharger-cost-electric-car-charging
“There are over 168,000 Gas Stations in the US... not pumps.. STATIONS... a charging station is the equivalent of a single pump.... “
LOL! Each Tesla super charging station has multiple ‘pumps’!
The crap flows heavily from you, my friend. Lots of BS.
I once paid $12 for a 1963 Chevy (yes twelve dollars). Also bought a 1957 Chevy 2-dr coupe (no pillars) for $15. Also bought a perfect 1958 Chevy 2-dr coupe for $50. That was a long time ago. None of them could hold a candle to my Nissan truck in speed or comfort, or hauling.
My Nissan truck has a super-charged engine, custom leather interior, stereo entertainment system, sun-roof, roof-rack, tonneau cover, bed-liner, trailer hitch, step-up rails, electric windows and mirrors, dark tint windows, custom wheels, rear seating and 4 doors, etc. None of which your 56 Chevy truck would have. A bargain at the price I paid. Like I said, you're full of BS.
“There are over 168,000 Gas Stations in the US... not pumps.. STATIONS”
My phone has wireless charging!
Just think in the future each home will be built with wireless EV charging. Just park your car in the garage or driveway and it starts charging!
Each parking spot at the mall could be a wireless charging station!
you prejudging capability on todays technology and information. I am proposing what 20 years will bring. I am too old to bet on my suppositions. But judging solar panels today and guess they will not do the job in the future and be built into the near is the losing side.
“None of which your 56 Chevy truck would have. “
But my old ‘56 still hauled the garbage to the dump!
“Under my plan … electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”
Also applies if electricity demand were to greatly increase in an attempt to supplant petroleum fueled automobiles.
“My Nissan truck has a super-charged engine, custom leather interior, stereo entertainment system, sun-roof, roof-rack, tonneau cover, bed-liner, trailer hitch, step-up rails, electric windows and mirrors, dark tint windows, custom wheels, rear seating and 4 doors, etc. “
Me thinks you have exceeded 25k ...
“Also applies if electricity demand were to greatly increase in an attempt to supplant petroleum fueled automobiles.”
Just the demand decrease in turning the lights and TV off plus reduced AC load would allow enough capacity to charge an EV at home for normal commutes.
” Park & plug in, ready when you come back.”
I am thinking Park and not plug-in.
I seldom have to plug my phone in now. Just set it on/in the wireless charger.
A toy for the wealthy?
“(A)t what 300 miles at a charge? 10 days to drive across the country? Geez, that is a real lesson in efficiency.”
The record is just a bit under 52 hours:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/9/15938028/tesla-model-s-cannonball-run-record
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