Posted on 10/17/2017 8:27:39 AM PDT by bkopto
Can’t be recalled, but can be impeached and removed.
Seems much like Hillary in that regard.
It was the Skyhawk next to him that was hit and had a couple of bombs knocked off. The fuel caught on fire and engulfed all the planes from the squadron spotted on the aft portion of the flight deck, which was one of the standard spots for aircraft spotting for a launch.
I believe that is true, that including the loss of his plane over North Vietnam, he crashed or damaged several other planes.
However, back in the late Forties, Fifties and Sixties, crashing a military plane happened with such regularity and frequency that it wasn’t necessarily a barrier to a career. I read the statistics a while back on plane losses in peacetime during those years, and it was staggering...I had no idea.
I admit, that is one of the things I found out during my service, is that the military used to crash a lot of planes, but unless it happened in your direct locality in pre-Internet times (and it didn’t crash into an apartment building killing a lot of people) you would rarely if ever hear of them.
Here I thought (or read) that the Zuni split open a centerline tank and that JP-4 was loosed upon the deck. Didnt know it was the a/c next to his.
“McCain’s going to lose his latest ‘challenge.’ And I don’t mean President Trump. The senator should be spending time with his family, getting his affairs in order, and otherwise preparing to meet his Maker, not going out with thinly veiled attacks on the POTUS and his supporters.”
I really think that McCain is so full of hatred that it is literally eating him up internally. I don’t like McCain, but anyone that has that much venom on the inside, should be pitied.
You know, I am glad that people don’t seem to take it too personally...because to be fair, it is ancient history to many, and their only exposure to it is a search on the Internet. I can hardly blame them to a degree, because I sometimes need to get set straight on things I see on the Internet, though I have become far less accepting of the reality of any of it...:)
This is something I know about, as I was actually in VA-46 (The squadron McCain was in at the time of the accident, and the institutional memory survived very vividly there, even though it was eight years later) and McCain was actually my CO in a training squadron for several months.
I know. You have it in a nutshell. There seems to be no mechanism for a determination on mental competence.
That is a whole different level of experience. How was McCain as a CO?
I believe it was one of those centerline tanks they carried on the A-4 since I think they were carrying a single 1000 lb bomb under each wing (those old degrading WWII era bombs) I am guessing that was their total load.
IIRC, the Zuni came across the flight deck from the Phantom, actually severed some guy’s arm at the shoulder, hit the centerline tank punching clear through it without exploding, then splashed harmlessly into the sea off the port quarter of the ship.
You and me both. Him and hillary have nothing I want to hear. The best thing they can do is fade away never to be heard from again. Best for them and best for the country.
You are correct in that McCain won’t cooperate. He will continue to enact revenge over the things Trump said about during the primaries.
But anyone that can do grade school math knows trump does need McCain’s vote. That was in full display in the failure to repeal obamacare. McCain may screw him again on tax cuts. We’ll see.
half-baked, spurious nationalism?
It was interesting to me, because I lived overseas in Japan and the Philippines as a Navy dependent during most of the Vietnam war, and was completely tied in to the POW issue.
As kids, we wore bracelets that had the names of POW’s on them (I think I had Denton’s, who I kind of idolized in a way because he somehow reminded me of my dad...probably just the hair or something) and mine just corroded on my wrist, turning greener and greener until it just fell apart.
So, when I got to my training squadron (VA-174) McCain was the CO, and while many of the guys didn’t know much about him, I sure did. It could be my memory, but I recall he actually did fly the planes...I somehow had the impression years later that they wouldn’t have allowed him to fly due to his physical condition, but my memory says he did.
There was one odd thing about him that stands out in my memory. In the upper floor of the giant hanger that VA-174 had all to itself (where the administrative offices and Ready Room were) there was a looong hallway that ran from one end of the hangar to the other.
I went upstairs for something one day, and when I entered that long, dimly lit hallway (seems like it was only lit by the windows at each end?) I could see there was someone bent over the scuttlebutt that was about dead center in the corridor. As I approached and got closer, the person didn’t move. Just stood there, half bent over as if to take a drink, but not drinking or moving.
I realized it was Commander McCain. I was probably about ten feet away when he straightened up and walked away into a room without taking a drink. It looked like the whole time I walked down that corridor, he was just mesmerized by the flow of water from the scuttlebutt. When I think of it now, I often wonder if it was some thing from being a POW, and not being able to have cold water any time you wanted it...and now, as a free man...here it was for the asking.
It was just a strange thing I have often pondered.
Depraved, both of them.
Makes sense. Usually weapons need some time to arm fully so they don’t harm the platform.
Wow, that poor sailor. And all those other guys. Horrible isn’t enough of a word.
Really?
I believe he’s just an evil, greedy pile of stuff.
Is it true that he watched the fire on closed circuit TV from a safe distance rather than lending a hand and then was ushered off the ship to R&R in a helicopter before even attending the memorial for the dead?
He just neglected to specify exactly which country.
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