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Once promised paradise, IS fighters end up in mass graves
The Jakarta Post ^ | October 15, 2017 | Ammar Karim and Maher al-Mounes Agence France-Presse

Posted on 10/15/2017 9:47:23 AM PDT by Kaslin

Edited on 10/15/2017 9:50:02 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The Islamic State group once drew recruits from near and far with promises of paradise but now bodies of jihadists lie in mass graves or at the mercy of wild dogs as its "caliphate" collapses.

Flies buzz around human remains poking through the dusty earth in the Iraqi town of Dhuluiyah, 90 kilometres (55 miles) north of Baghdad, at a hastily-dug pit containing the bodies of dozens of IS fighters killed in 2015.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; syria
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To: unlearner

You know for somebody who believes in not pushing things on people, you just keep pushing.

After I said enough.

We will agree to disagree.

Can you deal with that?


81 posted on 10/15/2017 3:59:34 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SkyPilot

BTW, I DO agree people DO use that in the Middle East. Out of fairness, yes, that does happen.

Added SP as a ping.


82 posted on 10/15/2017 4:05:19 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Fred Nerks

So...you don’t agree that President Trump was sworn in by mostly non-American forces?


83 posted on 10/15/2017 4:14:46 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: RipSawyer
You tell me who those mostly non-American forces are and I'll think about it. I'm an Australian, and most BS just washes over the top of my head.
84 posted on 10/15/2017 4:19:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Well, I think he was sworn in by the same chief justice who said that the individual mandate to buy health insurance under Obamacare was constitutional because the penalty for NOT buying insurance is a tax and the congress has power to lay taxes. He seems like a mostly non-American force to me.


85 posted on 10/15/2017 4:30:39 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism regardless of the race of the racist)
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To: SaveFerris

“You know for somebody who believes in not pushing things on people, you just keep pushing.”

Making a case using logic and reason on an open forum where public debate and discussion is encouraged, does not constitute “pushing things on people.” I wonder if a person who holds such views thinks Free Republic exists simply as a soap box for his opinions only.

“We will agree to disagree. Can you deal with that?”

I’m just pointing out the facts. If a person doesn’t like them, that is not my problem, but that person’s. So, sure I can “deal with that.” Can the person who asked this deal with it himself?

“After I said enough.”

Is a person supposed to have the first word and the last word, also? Why? Just because such a person asserts so?

If it is “enough,” then the person who said so should feel free stop posting any time. Otherwise, that person should not get offended if he ends up being labeled a “hypocrite.”

I was polite enough not to call the person a liar when that person clearly lied about my position. I gave that person a way to gracefully exit and admit that he misstated my position. Or he could have just walked away from the conversation and made no further comment.

Instead he just keeps doubling down.

Maybe this person should quit while he is ahead and stop posting when he has decided that he’s had enough.

That person posted that the Muslim’s “allah” is Satan. He started this discussion. And now that he can’t have his way, he throws a temper tantrum.

It seems my question about whether Jesus died for Arabic speaking people triggered this person. Or maybe it was calling him on the lie where he claimed I used the Koran as a proof text.

I have not wronged this person in any way at all. If so, he should feel free to show me. Otherwise such a person should not publicly proclaim a devotion to Jesus while simultaneously refusing to acknowledge that He died for the sins of the world, including Arabic speaking people. That’s what the debate over the “Allah” title is ultimately about. And this person needs to make some changes so that his words and actions line up with his Christian profession. Because right now, they do not.


86 posted on 10/15/2017 5:05:51 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

[ I was polite enough not to call the person a liar when that person clearly lied about my position. ]

Shame on you. You were using the Koran as proof.

Shame on you. Now go away.


87 posted on 10/15/2017 5:20:51 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

“You were using the Koran as proof.”

Why do you keep repeating lies?

You are repeating a complete and total fabrication even after your claim has already been proven false. My citation of the Koran was a purely historical reference, not theological. You called it using the Koran as a “proof text.” This means you are a very poorly educated man who does not know the meaning of “proof text” but chooses to use it in a sentence without bothering to look it up, or you are a liar, or both. Since you won’t bother to look it up, I’ll post the definition here:

“proof text
noun
a passage of the Bible to which appeal is made in support of an argument or position in theology.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=proof+text

Or maybe you thought you could be sneaky by dropping the word “text” from your current post. But your original lie is posted here for all to see. Besides that, it makes your claim meaningless. It is like saying, “You used the word Koran in your statement, and it is therefore false.” It is total lunacy. I used it no differently than any other user of this forum has, including you. No one on this forum, that I’ve seen, has ever quoted the Koran as the basis of a theological position. It demonstrates false theology and a historical record of the beliefs of Muslims.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3595173/posts?page=74#74

You have in these few short threads managed to demonstrate the embodiment of lies, ignorance, stupidity, and religious hypocrisy. But, as if that were not enough, you combine all of these with stopping your ears, ordering others not to talk any more, and demonstrating total incompetence of the subject at hand while simultaneously exerting extreme confidence. This is a really bad combination in case you did not realize it.

I proved my point conclusively from the Bible, NOT the Koran, in post #47:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3595173/posts?page=47#47

I’ve already answered your lie in post #80:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3595173/posts?page=80#80

It’s not shocking when atheists, homosexuals, abortionists, and Muslims attack someone for proclaiming the word of God. But it is shocking when people who wrap themselves in the mantle of Christianity do so.

I have shared the word of God. I have proclaimed the love of Christ who died for the sins of the world. And your response is to shut up and “go away.”

You are phony. You claim to follow Christ but insult His word, His sacrifice, His followers.

It’s funny that when I hoped to reach out to Muslims with the Gospel by engaging in a conversation about spiritual matters, none of them attacked the way you do.

You must really be hell-bent on hiding the Gospel from the lost and attacking anyone who might care to share it with them.

There have been many religious people, ones who claimed to follow Christ, who have murdered real Christians. Some, filled with hatred for real Christians and the word of God, have had real Christians burned at the stake. So I guess I should not be surprised when someone like you throws bitter insults in response to the word of God.

If you are someone who has truly repented of sin and trusted Christ, you should take some time to pray and ask Him whether what I am saying is true. Stop clinging to your wicked pride. Stop hardening your heart to truth and Biblical correction.

John 3:16
For God so loved the WORLD [emphasis added] that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

John 13:20
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

Proverbs 9:8
Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you;
Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

Acts 7:54
When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth.

Revelation 3:19
As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.


89 posted on 10/15/2017 7:27:15 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: Kaslin

Sometimes I am amazed there are such large numbers of Muslims.

The religion is very barbarous and unappealing.

They murder each other constantly.

And I know they are supposed to have a high birth rate but supposedly are very inbred. Which affects fertility among other things right? Lots of birth defects.

I don’t understand how there are still so many.


90 posted on 10/15/2017 8:35:55 PM PDT by Persevero (Democrats haven't been this nutty since we freed their slaves.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

What did you say?

You said Trump had nothing to do as the work was done.

Refute it.


91 posted on 10/15/2017 8:39:27 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: CodeToad

We seem to have some lefty players here.

I have all night.


92 posted on 10/15/2017 8:41:38 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Persevero
It may be because Islam is a very simplified form of monotheism. There are fewer rules than in Judaism and less soul-searching than in Christianity.

Of course, Islam was spread over a millennium ago through conquest, and laws which gave advantages to Muslims. But with Christians arguing about theology and Hindus consigning people to lower castes for life, there were many who were drawn to Islam.

And today, in Africa and elsewhere, Islam provides clearer and simpler rules and less uncertainty than Christianity. Plus, leaving Islam has real negative consequences in some parts of the world.

93 posted on 10/15/2017 8:47:02 PM PDT by x
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To: Kaslin

Lords yes, ISIS in mass graves spells moon.


94 posted on 10/16/2017 7:11:25 AM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: FreedomStar3028; eyedigress

Obama was actively providing safe corridors for ISIS to travel between Libya, Syria and Iraq. It would appear most people forgot about that.


95 posted on 10/16/2017 7:21:48 AM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: Kaslin

96 posted on 10/16/2017 8:03:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Balding_Eagle; FreedomStar3028

>
Trump did’t have much to do with their demise.

What an ignorant statement.

Do you really think they would be dead under a President Hillary?

They are dead because of Trump.
>

IMO, ignorant only to believe we were the only interests in that theater.

Putin was taking care of biz long before Jan. Personally, I still haven’t heard/read the ROE re-write (supposing they were)....still, I don’t see the U.S. wanting to actually WIN this ‘war’


97 posted on 10/16/2017 8:52:22 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: FreedomStar3028

#26. Freedomstar. What are you smoking? I want some of that.

Hillary wouldn’t have bombed an ant-hill in Iraq. She didn’t do anything in Benghazi, or Syria, or Iraq, or Yemen, or the Philippines or Nigeria while she was either a Senator or Secy of State.

She is all talk (I’d say a blowhard but that is reserved for her husband-in-theory Bill). The woman can’t even walk straight without help or Huma. But she sure could destroy 33,000 emails, a Herculean feat for us mere mortals. She most have had an extra set of hands and fingers to do all the “Deleting”.

No, Hillary is a total loser, liar, crook, greedy pig, feminazi, cuckhold, psychopath and lousy cook.


98 posted on 10/16/2017 10:36:15 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: RipSawyer

“So...you don’t agree that President Trump was sworn in by mostly non-American forces?”

obama was at the Inauguration - does that count?


99 posted on 10/17/2017 1:31:05 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts FDR's New Deal = obama)
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To: FreedomStar3028

‘But why test it if you knew the outcome?’

shh, you’re not supposed to ask questions like that on this forum...haven’t you learned that yet...?


100 posted on 10/19/2017 11:10:00 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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