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Significant Timeline Change Sheriff Reveals Mandalay Bay Security Guard Was Shot BEFORE Vegas Attack
The Gateway Pundit ^ | 9 October 2017 | Joshua Caplan

Posted on 10/09/2017 4:18:26 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

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To: GraceG

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41 posted on 10/09/2017 6:21:20 PM PDT by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: mass55th

I have not followed nearly all the articles on this (I will try to get caught up), but I was following it “live” during the hours after the shootings — in one of the earliest articles there was reference to a bellman observing lots of glass crashing down outside the hotel. They might not have known instantly which floor it came from, but they may have known within seconds that a window had been smashed.


42 posted on 10/09/2017 6:45:38 PM PDT by Enchante ( I lost my tagline, has anyone found it???)
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It would have been hundreds of pounds of glass. Somewhere I saw that those huge windows weigh 600 lbs each but I don’t know. That would have been a tremendous smash on the ground if any hotel staff were indeed nearby to observe it.


43 posted on 10/09/2017 6:48:21 PM PDT by Enchante ( I lost my tagline, has anyone found it???)
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To: Fractal Trader

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44 posted on 10/09/2017 6:54:00 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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To: abigkahuna
abigkahuna: "Anyway, do you have a linky to a post on this information. I find it intriguing. to say the least!"

The following 'speculation' by Sorcha Faal seems eerily plausible:

According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock,


45 posted on 10/09/2017 6:54:10 PM PDT by wtd
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To: samadams2000

“The elevator cameras/ hallway cameras will tell us all. We should see those soon..../s”

Still waiting. (Queue “Jeopardy” theme.)


46 posted on 10/09/2017 6:55:13 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (A person's greatest strength is his greatest weakness.)
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To: Fractal Trader

Yeah, there’s something going on with the timeline that they’re trying to cover up. The security guard story wasn’t jiving. Now, he’s not the hero the msm claimed he was. No wonder he has been lying low and not giving interviews.

Heard a smidgen on whatever was blocking the stairwell door but didn’t hear what is was. Anyone know?


47 posted on 10/09/2017 6:59:30 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: wtd

aackk I can’t take news anymore...I think I will go watch some old Ren and Stimpy or something...anything...Oh and thanks for the info and linky.


48 posted on 10/09/2017 7:06:14 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: smokingfrog

The stairwell door opens into the stairwell. Fire codes. The only way it can be blocked is on the stair side, not the hallway side.

The cops said (story subject to change!) they couldn’t get up the stairwell because it was blocked. So, like they couldn’t unblock it from their side. So, they want us to believe they walked back up/down the stairs to another floor and then arrived on the elevator. That’s a lot of wasted time if shots were being fired.... Which now we are told shots were being fired at them through the door. Yeah, WHATEVER! They’re going to confuse the story so much, we’ll never know the truth and that’s exactly what they’re wanting. Thank you, swamp creature, Mueller.


49 posted on 10/09/2017 7:35:20 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Typelouder

What was being drilled? Who reported it? What happened to that alarm for a door ajar story?


50 posted on 10/09/2017 7:37:11 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: mass55th
I just read today that he would bring his own drinks to the casino because he didn't like tipping for them.

That's another part of the every changing story. The feds really need to have better communication between agents so they're all up on the latest version.

51 posted on 10/09/2017 7:41:43 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Sacajaweau

We just don’t know what “down the hall” means. It can’t have been a guest’s door because those are left open all the time if they’re expecting visitors or they’ve just run down for ice or whatever. The only other door would be the stairwell door. That door isn’t “down the hall” but right there at the shooter’s two rooms.


52 posted on 10/09/2017 7:45:26 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

I’ve been trying to think of a way someone could block or lock a stairwell door without being too obvious about it, but haven’t come up with anything. Maybe squirt some quick cure epoxy into the lock?


53 posted on 10/09/2017 7:45:44 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: blueplum

If he screwed the stairwell door so it wouldn’t open, then he’d have been on the stairwell side. That means he couldn’t shoot the security guard from inside the room. If he was drilling and screwing from the hallway side (makes no sense, but I’ll play along) then the guard could have seen him, confronted him and was shot. But why just in the leg and not a kill shot so he couldn’t notify the cops?

That would also mean the shooter blocked his escape.

What stopped the shooting? If the cops are now admitting the shooting went on for several minutes after they arrived, then were any holes in the door going into the room from their guns? Or were they hiding in the safety of the elevator all that time?

This is getting weirder and weirder.


54 posted on 10/09/2017 7:56:06 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Fractal Trader
when Campos got to the door where he suspected Paddock was barricaded, he was met with gunfire through the door.

I am really confused. If the security guard was shot before the shooter started shooting the crowd- how did the guard know he was barricaded? What brought Paddock or that room to his attention if it happened before the shooting?

There was an original story that there was more than one shooter and at least some were security or dressed like security. I did not see that story again after the first day so I thought that turned out not to be true. I don't know what to think now.

55 posted on 10/09/2017 8:01:41 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Tammy8

Ok, just saw the LEO (green shirt) say he was drilling into the suit wall to maybe place a camera.

Which suit wall? Sure, don’t all shooters leave this until the last minute? Maybe his schedule was thrown off? Whatever, it’s weird.


56 posted on 10/09/2017 8:08:51 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: smokingfrog
There's this gadget but it would work only inside the stairwell.

Secure portable door safety lock

57 posted on 10/09/2017 8:36:22 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: bgill

At this point it doesn’t matter what theory anyone has- CIA, gun runner, ISIS, he just snapped on his own...the pieces don’t go together for any scenario I can think of.

I used to work a lot of jigsaw puzzles, once I started working on a puzzle that really frustrated me right off the bat, couldn’t get anywhere on the border. Then I realized someone had mixed up pieces from two different puzzles. This shooting reminds me of that.


58 posted on 10/09/2017 8:37:12 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: bgill

the stairs are in like an ice-machine alcove. It’s possible the guard could have been shot at from around that corner and all he would know is someone at the end of the hall is shooting at him. Or there were two or more persons.

Last version I heard, the cops were on the 31st floor when they heard the shooting. Then went to the 32nd where they found the security kid.

I read that the door ajar alarm was for a door that had been ajar for ‘some time.’ whatever that means. Now, thinking like a persnikity accountant about to set up cameras and drill things so loud it could be heard from the elevator, and break windows out, and, break all amateur rapidfire sharpshooter world records and such, why wouldn’t I check out the hallway and see who’s home, and maybe close that door myself when I went and got the cart in the hall for my cameras? I’d stayed at that hotel before, I’d already know they’d send someone about the door. Loose end.

Another loose end is, why wait until the final act of the final day? why not blow things up at the beginning of the weekend and really stick it to Las Vegas if that was the motivation?


59 posted on 10/09/2017 8:40:51 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: Fractal Trader

My guess.
1. Guard responds to whatever shooting occurs from buyers to Paddock (Paddock dead).
2. Guard retreats, buyers fire into crowd to cause confusion and shut down the strip.
3. Cops bumble around until SWAT shows up, they go in and are fooled by fake suicide.


60 posted on 10/09/2017 9:29:36 PM PDT by struggle (The)
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