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Atlantic Editor: You're A Bad Parent If You Own A Gun
Townhall.com ^ | October 8, 2017 | Matt Vespa

Posted on 10/08/2017 3:19:30 PM PDT by Kaslin

We still don’t know what set off Stephen Paddock in Las Vegas. The 64-year-old checked into the Mandalay Bay hotel, went to the 32nd floor, took 23 firearms with him, and proceeded to fire upon the 22,000 concertgoers below at the Route 91 Harvest music festival. It was the last night of the festival. He killed 58 people and wounded nearly 500 more. He killed himself before police breached the door to his suite. 

As Democratic members of Congress prepare to push gun control again, they’re faced with the same obstacles of this increasingly stale debate over whether or not we should chip away at Americans’ constitutional rights. Paddock was independently wealthy which allowed him to buy a lot of firearms. All were purchased legally. He was no criminal history or known mental illness. So, there really isn’t much to advocate for in the legislative front, besides pushing an outright gun ban, which is unconstitutional and politically unfeasible. Senior editor at The Atlantic David Frum had a different take. Play the long game and ingrain into the national psyche that it’s dangerous to own guns, and that it makes you a bad parent to own guns. He said this Tuesday on MSNBC’s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell. He was a guest on the show, along with Rep. Jackey Rosen (D-NV). Newsbusters clipped the exchange [emphasis mine]:


LAWRENCE O'DONNELL: The polling shows that most Americans agree with the congresswoman on this. 

DAVID FRUM: Well, I wish that were true, but I think when you face the reality, it just isn't. One of the things that we have seen over the past decade is a rising support among Americans for ever broader definitions of gun rights in exactly the way that Justice Burger warned us against. But that it where the country is.

And so it makes this -- and this is a really painful thing to say -- these technical fixes people look for, maybe if we had banned this implement or regulated that implement -- there is something very wrong with the American gun culture. Three percent of the people own 50 percent of the weapons in this country -- I mean, a tiny number of people and vast numbers of weapons.

Until you persuade people that it is just dangerous to themselves, to their children, you're not a good parent if you have a gun in the house, you're not protecting your family, you're a bad parent if you have a gun in the house, until you drill that idea into people's heads and persuade them to change the way we changed about cigarettes and seatbelts, these technical fixes aren't going to accomplish a lot. And pubic opinion -- you can make it look like it's on your side if you ask the poll question the right way, but operationally it's not.

Yeah, I’m sure that’s really going to go over well; telling Americans that they’re bad parents for exercising their constitutional right to own firearms. If anything, that will drive up sales. The firearm is an integral part of American culture and history. There is no escaping that, neither is the incessant push by liberals to blame the tens of millions (the overwhelming majority) of law-abiding American gun owners for the actions of criminals and insane people. Yet, the anti-gun Left keeps doing it, Americans still buy firearms in record numbers; Obama was a terrific salesman, and the Second Amendment stands strong.  


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guncontroldebate; gunrights; lasvegas; lasvegasshooting; media; msm; nevada; secondamendment; stephenpaddock
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To: Kaslin

and you are a moron if you believe this tripe


21 posted on 10/08/2017 3:39:57 PM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Kaslin

democrat liberals are incompetent parents.


22 posted on 10/08/2017 3:42:07 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: All

why does the atlantic have any advertisers?


23 posted on 10/08/2017 3:43:12 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: therut

I ignore stuff like this if it’s not sourced. Therein lies a problem: you can make any claims you want and you won’t be challenged.


24 posted on 10/08/2017 3:44:41 PM PDT by upchuck (Looking for a new/different job? Try Genealogy. You can't get fired and you can't quit!)
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To: Kaslin

I’m going to try and be a better parent and not protect them. As is, I have a gun loaded in a drawer within arms reach, dogs, door stops, alarm system ... not to mention a hand ax and aluminum bat behind the bed. Estimated I only need a 3-4 second warning, which is in place, to eliminate any problem. What was I thinking? Better to risk ruination, rape, and welcome being a servant to mind numbing life altering horror that could permeate generations.


25 posted on 10/08/2017 3:45:28 PM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: Kaslin

You’re a pervert if you think homosexuality is good.


26 posted on 10/08/2017 3:45:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You can't have totalitarian globalist government if the peasants are armed.)
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To: Kaslin
You are cynical - i.e., a bad American - if you assume the worst about people who aren’t breaking a law or bothering anyone.

27 posted on 10/08/2017 3:46:35 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Kaslin

3% own 50% of the guns??


28 posted on 10/08/2017 3:49:16 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Kaslin

All my kids have their own guns. What kind of parent does that make me?


29 posted on 10/08/2017 3:51:46 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Kaslin
You're A Bad Parent If You DON'T Own A Gun

Typo in the headline ...

30 posted on 10/08/2017 3:52:28 PM PDT by IronJack (sh)
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To: mountainlion

Exactly. You gotta have a 12 guage pump for home defense, a .22 to train the kids on, and a handgun as backup for the 12 guage, something good and useful like a S&W snub nosed revolver. Then there’s sporting guns, guns that are just plain cool looking, and some samurai swords;-E)


31 posted on 10/08/2017 3:54:23 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Y-you mean, you’re one of those people? You know, the ones who just want to watch a football game? GASP!


32 posted on 10/08/2017 3:57:41 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: CodeToad

Sw this AH and according to him if ou have a gun in the house you are putting the entire family at risk.


33 posted on 10/08/2017 3:59:09 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Kaslin

You’re a worse parent if you don’t.


34 posted on 10/08/2017 4:01:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: TigersEye

Not every one should own a gun. Example: Your’s truly


35 posted on 10/08/2017 4:04:13 PM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero))
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To: dsc

All my kids have their own guns. What kind of parent does that make me?
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Thoughtful, smart, forward-thinking, protective, magnificent, realistic ... and a litany of synonyms along the same vein.


36 posted on 10/08/2017 4:04:58 PM PDT by Eagles Field
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To: CodeToad; dirtboy; mountainlion; Kaslin; trisham
You just have to raise them right.


37 posted on 10/08/2017 4:06:15 PM PDT by 4Liberty (MSM = Democrat's PR firm)
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To: Kaslin

Ah, yes, The Egregious Frum.

No thanks, don’t need his logic on this.


38 posted on 10/08/2017 4:06:30 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kaslin

A man has to know his limitations! ;-)


39 posted on 10/08/2017 4:06:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: Eagles Field

Hold on; I need to run down and buy a bigger hat.


40 posted on 10/08/2017 4:06:46 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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