Compare and/or contrast that pic with this one:
'nuff said.
Posted on 10/08/2017 11:43:25 AM PDT by reaganaut1
WASHINGTON — Stymied in his efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, President Trump is poised to issue an order that could ease some federal rules governing health insurance and make it easier for people to band together and buy coverage on their own, administration officials said Saturday.
One official said the directive could move the president a step closer to one of his longstanding goals: allowing consumers to buy health insurance across state lines. Conservatives say that interstate sales could expand options for consumers, increase competition in the insurance market and perhaps lower costs.
The order, which the administration officials said was likely to be announced in the coming week, would instruct three cabinet departments to take actions to help individuals and small businesses join together to buy insurance through arrangements known as association health plans. Such plans could be sponsored by trade and professional groups and community organizations.
While the order could exempt association health plans from some federal and state rules that Republicans say drive up costs, the president could not unilaterally change the laws that regulate insurance, such as the Affordable Care Act of 2010 and the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, the foundation for employee health benefits. But, officials said, he can direct federal agencies to reinterpret key provisions of those laws and to revise rules issued under them.
The plan for the presidential order was first reported by The Wall Street Journal.
Some insurers, including Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans, oppose association health plans, saying they would skim off healthier consumers and leave traditional insurers with sicker, more expensive customers.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Interesting. Sounds like they are going to take the cost-sharing model used by organizations that operate under Obamacare’s religious exemptions and allow some limited expansion to non-religious groups.
REMOVE all EXEMPTIONS. Especially for congress and unions.
End the individual mandate.
Stop all subsidizes that were not in the original passed law.
Whatever he does will be tied up in the courts for years.
Was not the ACA riddled with “SecHHS shall” clauses, essentially letting the Executive make ACA whatever they wanted it to be??? Well, there’s a new SecHHS, is there not? Do the not report to the President? Didn’t Øbama waive a boatload of clauses himself?
Dragging on the taking apart of Obamacare piece by piece will be counter productive. People will get tired of the ongoingness. You have to be ruthless and take it out all at once. People will forgive you for it as time goes on. Think of all the Government takeovers where they kill everybody to start. Once again they’re forgiven as long as it doesn’t go on and on. Trump knows this and the retiring Rino’s are catching on.
Good if the insurance companies don’t like it. The major insurance companies are merely proxies for big government insurance. Right now, the big insurance companies function as health insurance administrator oligopolies (they don’t do real indemnity insurance anymore- 9its the government) and don’t like the competition.
Trump can help with the path to more and more doctors going on their own, offering services at lower costs than with insurance. If obamacare can’t be dismantled, go around it... Trump is the deal maker.. he surely has ideas on how to offer a way to make it obsolete and open up new doors for healthcare.
Healthcare of today is nothing like the healthcare of 50 years ago.. It’s time to make obamacare nothing like the new and better healthcare ... Congress won’t do what they campaigned on, and there is always a way to outskin the cat. Reinvent the wheel on healthcare and let obamacare finish withering on the vine.
50 years ago there was no insurance like today.. there was “hospitalization insurance” and the rest was paid out of pocket.. to any doctor and any drugstore for prescriptions... the cost was reasonable.. $5 to $25 for a dr visit and $10 for prescriptions.
Why can’t we do that again... regulate the cost of medicine and some doctors have already lowered costs with skipping any insurance. The prices we see today, went up when the job benefits included health care and the government got involved in the insurance business. When it’s not “your money”, and when it’s big business... control is lost.
just implement anyways. The Executive branch is the enforcer of the law. Courts are lawless but in any event they can rule on something but it must be enforced and only the executive can do that. Obama found this loophole and ran with it for 8 years.
The new ruler must determine all the injuries that he will need to inflict. He must inflict them once and for all.
Machiavelli
That never stopped 0bama from legislating via pen and phone.
That’s what I’ve been saying from the start. Between the head of HHS and the President they could make Obamacare almost null and void. Republicans never use the power at their disposal. Dems will every single time....and more.
This SUCKS, the next President can just reverse the order.
Machiavelli was talking about a Prince not a democratically elected leader. “The Discourses” is probably closer to his real political beliefs and more applicable to a republic.
Compare and/or contrast that pic with this one:
'nuff said.
Not if the Trump associations rule becomes popular, and they remember the chaos of the Affordable Health Care Act. The new POTUS might legally be allowed to nullify Trump’s order, but will he want the political consequences.
Why can’t we do that again... regulate the cost of medicine and some doctors have already lowered costs with skipping any insurance.
In my scenario, there would be no “health insurance” ... only “hospitalization”, which is today called catastrophic insurance. For normal doctor visits, the patient would pay the cost of the visit. For prescriptions, the patient would pay the cost.. many times the dr would have the “meds” to give to the patient and not have to go to the pharmacy. The “hospitalization” insurance could be bought across the state line.. anywhere a person could get it at the best rate... it would come down in cost if there was competition and there were no boundaries to stop the competition.
Did you know that there are doctors today... caring for cancer patients... the dr buys chemo at his cost and sells it to the hospital/patient at twice to three times the amount he paid for it. In that case, the dr would prescribe chemo whether it would help or not... (if the dr bought it low for his purpose, he’d be the kind to prescribe it and make a profit). Yes, I know this to be true... in at least one case.. and the patient said it was more than just one doctor who did this. (That’s not to take away from the doctors who do take care of patients with caring, first in mind).
Where money.. a lot of money... is involved, there are those who try to make a fortune doing whatever it takes. just look at congress!
Tell it to Congress. I just isn't going to happen with the current set of GOPe players. The ONLY avenue left is to use the provisions of the ACA to slice it down to a shadow of itself. Perhaps then repeal will be palatable. Furthermore, there will be leverage with the RATs to compromise on a replacement to restore some of that which has been eliminated.
LOLOLOL....
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