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Please Stop With the Conspiracy Theories Surrounding the Las Vegas Shooting
Townhall.com ^ | October 5, 2017 | Steve Sheldon

Posted on 10/05/2017 3:25:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

Too many rumors are swirling around regarding the tragedy in Vegas from Sunday night. Let me start by dispelling with some of the questions floating around on the internet:


1.  How did he get that many weapons into his room without being noticed?  

A: With a luggage cart and ten suitcases over 3 days.

2.  How did he fire off that many rounds without training?  

A: A monkey can pull a trigger; and, who says he didn't have practice?

3. How was he able to kill that many people in such a short time?  

A: He had 11 minutes firing on near full-auto (using a bump fire device) into a crowd of people that had no idea where the fire was coming from.

4.  Why did he have so many weapons?  

A: First, he was a psychopath. Clark County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said it best, "No Ma'am, I can't get into the mind of a psychopath at this point." 

Second, he probably thought he would be there for an extended period of time and perhaps thought he would heat up one or more guns. Maybe he wasn't good at changing magazines? Again, first answer is always a fit. Seriously, how can we apply reason to a psychopath?

5. How did he get his hands on fully automatic firearms?  

A: Investigation has determined that he had bump fire or slide fire devices on 12 of his firearms, which make them sound like a full-auto and operate much like a full-auto. They are approved by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and are easily available (until now).

6.  How was he able to remove a window with 800 pounds of hurricane glass without training? (I know, seriously, this was a question.) 

A: With a hammer.

7. How did he get up 32 floors with 400 pounds of equipment?  

A: With an elevator and luggage cart.

8.  What about the sounds of gunfire coming from other directions?  

A:  It was an echo. 

9. How does one man come to own $100K worth of weapons without being noticed?  

A: He was rich.  As far as what we know right now, all guns were purchased legally over a period of time from multiple vendors.  Every dealer and serious collector at a gun show has that many or more, and they are not psychopathic mass murderer candidates.

10: How is it possible that he killed/injured so many in such a short time...without training?

A:  He was able to fire uninhibited an unreported number of rounds into a massive crowd, where he couldn't miss hitting something. When we know more, it is likely that many of the injuries were not from gunfire but from the panic that ensued. However, considering the rate of fire and the mass of the crowd, it wouldn't be the least bit unreasonable to think that 50-70% of the bullets hit something.

11. What gun laws could have prevented this?  

A: None. He had no criminal background.

12. What about laws preventing mentally ill people from getting firearms?  

A: How does one accurately measure another's current mental stability or future propensity to become a psychopath among the group of every potential firearm purchaser?

13. What about the unidentified and unverified woman who told the crowd that a lot of people were going to die?  

Possible answers: 1. It is made up nonsense. 2. She was drunk.

14. What about the shots coming from other floors?  

A. Echoes, reflections of other things, reflections of the shooter across multiple reflective surfaces (Las Vegas is mostly glass)... 

Response questions:  Where in these locations was glass broken?  Where in these locations were reports of gunfire from adjacent rooms? (That's how the shooter was quickly located.) How did these mysterious shooters so quickly police up all their brass and keep the fire alarms from going off with all the smoke?

15. How did the shooter manage to record a video of himself?

A.  Ummmmm, I don't know, a tripod?

Finally, some questions for the conspiracy theorists.

How do hundreds of law enforcement officers secretly conspire to cover up evidence in one of the nation's worst modern massacres?  What would be their motivation? Would conspiracy advocates be satisfied when they see video evidence of the shooter by himself committing the act and ending it by putting a gun in his mouth?

I could go on, but you get the picture.  Please folks, stop with the conspiracy insanity and let the investigators do their jobs.  Seriously, just stop.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; grassyknoll; guncontrol; lasvegasshooting; magicbullets; yeaaaaaaaa
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To: bushpilot2
We entered an age when corporations and political entities can manipulate citizens to commit acts like Las Vegas.


We have been for a while...


401 posted on 10/06/2017 4:26:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bushpilot2

So can ‘some’ NON-citizens; I’d image...


402 posted on 10/06/2017 4:28:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Heck; who doesn’t???


403 posted on 10/06/2017 4:30:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
At the distance he was away from the stage area; I doubt that the angle he needed to 'wave' would be very great.

Perhaps 'that' shooter was far closer to the crowd...

404 posted on 10/06/2017 4:31:26 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie

Interesting response. No one in my circle. Might want to visit the Dr and see if your meds need to be adjusted.


405 posted on 10/06/2017 4:33:01 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: x

He was ok with concerts.... went to them with his girlfriend...unless every one of them was a scouting mission.
He chose the quiet machines...so that would fit.
But here’s another theory:
Looks to me that he just didn’t like hip/hop/rap. He made it through nearly 3 days of a country festival before taking a shot. But he starts shooting when the last country artist Aldean is about to play his hiphop country rap hit “Dirt Road Anthem.”
Hard to blame him on that one....
The other concert he was thinking about was hip hop. The Chicago concert was also a rap festival.
Fenway Park had a country rap concert featuring Florida Georgia Line , but I don’t know if it matches his schedule.
Could be the same company is behind the concerts and he hated the organizers for some real or imaginary sleight. Or it could be he just couldn’t stand country hip hop. Or Aldean in particular.


406 posted on 10/06/2017 4:41:40 AM PDT by piasa (...)
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To: Iscool
The compass angle to the concert area ranges from about 34° at South LV Boulevard to 52° at Giles Street.

At 45°, the shooters window was almost perpendicular to his average line of firing direction.

He had an approximate 18° subtended angle of target rich environment.

407 posted on 10/06/2017 4:47:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: piasa

Look at THIS!

 Route 91 Harvest Festival
 
 

Is that MACHINE GUN FIRE raining down on LaS Vegas from the RIGHT??

408 posted on 10/06/2017 4:59:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin

The alleged perps of all these terrorist attacks always end up dead. Every single one. Why? Because dead men tell no tales. They never get to tell their story in court, much less who talked them into being on the scene.

Of course they’re mentally deranged. Who else would let themselves be convinced to show up and be the dead patsy?

Who are the real beneficiaries of these attacks? Gun control
advocates. Who are the real gun control advocates, and what are they really afraid of? Effective fire power.(Resistance to tyranny).

The NWO, or whoever is vying for power, is not afraid of pistols.

They’ll just keep mowing down people 50 (or whatever number) at a clip until Congress takes all the machine guns away. That could be the motive.

Notice the knee jerk reaction of the press, half the population and the media.

Things that make you go hmmmm....


409 posted on 10/06/2017 5:22:54 AM PDT by Concentrate (ex-texan was right and Always Right was wrong, which is why we lost the election. Podesta the molest)
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To: Ann Archy

“Not true....every report said he shot at the guard 200 times and then he STOPPED.......the police were never shot at....at least in all the reporting.”

The guard supposedly was found to have very high amounts of gun shot residue on his hands. Hence being a possible suspect.


411 posted on 10/06/2017 6:12:09 AM PDT by Justa
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To: AzNASCARfan

Has it been proven it was him who fired at the tanks? Surely they can find some slugs and do ballistic tests. Are any investigators hanging out around the tanks? Is forensics going over JANET with a fine tooth comb or is she still making her daily flights to Area 51?

I’m not convinced the plan was to get the crowd to run toward him. The closer they get to the building, the more difficult the angle of fire.

However, the tanks exploding would certainly have kept the first responders busy, shut down everything, forced a “shelter in place” order ....
A hell of an act of TERROR.

All just speculation on my part.

Good thing he hadn’t recently loss his job or it would be work place violence -Case Closed. Or they may come up with a new motive - Gambling loss violence .... Car got repossessed violence .... Stubbed his toe violence. Anything except what it us -TERRORISM.


412 posted on 10/06/2017 6:17:01 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: McGruff

Maybe you see a conspiracy kook in the mirror and mistake it for other Freepers.


413 posted on 10/06/2017 6:22:50 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: TigerClaws

I work in a nursing home with a central alarm and sensors everywhere. 1/4 turn and remove while I’m doing something smokey or misty. Found out the hard way that they’re very sensitive to silicone spray mist.


414 posted on 10/06/2017 6:23:38 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Fidel and Che are together again, and it ain't on a t-shirt.)
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To: Blue Highway

It is possible and the idea of a strobe light seems more nutty than the muzzle flashes
of a gun when there were many people stating multiple shooters as well as the sounds
of simultaneous guns not echoes.

***************

As with most major events there are multiple theories.
If this one fits your belief system so be it.

Have a nice day........


415 posted on 10/06/2017 6:27:01 AM PDT by deport
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To: Brown Deer

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Please discontinue posting your ignorant agitprop to me.

You’ve never been anything but a deceiving troll here.
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416 posted on 10/06/2017 7:23:55 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie

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What are you trying to do to that poor woman?
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417 posted on 10/06/2017 7:26:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Kaslin
This is classic conspiracy whacko stuff...keying in on one word....


418 posted on 10/06/2017 7:57:43 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: TigerClaws
Think of events where there are large crowds - concerts, sporting events, graduation ceremonies, churches.

We are nearing a point where proper security for ANY large outside event needs to have police snipers.

Large outside events will likely disappear from American society, security being impossible to guarantee.

419 posted on 10/06/2017 8:06:29 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: mad_as_he$$

” crazy doesn’t need a motive it just needs a purpose.”

Ok, but now you’re just talking semantics.

iow: purpose = motive


420 posted on 10/06/2017 8:13:35 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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