Posted on 10/03/2017 3:16:33 PM PDT by Sopater
[ My Sister was there, she was walking along the strip from cirque de ole and her husband wanted to make his way towards the Mandalay and the concert but she was tired and begging him to go back to the Tuscany Hotel.
She said she heard shots fired and then about five minutes of running towards the Tuscany she said she saw more police cars race down the strip than she ever knew existed. ]
OMG!!! I am glad she is okay!
Caution! Picture of shooter, it’s bloody.
“I. DIDN’T. POST. THIS. THREAD.”
I know. I posted about the numerous naysayers that are posting now. Was intended to be in support of your post saying you did not post the thread.
The shooter came out the door of his suite, and shot someone in the hallway. There being no place to use for cover on the hallway, the normal officers had no choice but to hold in place and wait for swat.
The use of the term Keystone Cops here is ridiculous. Officers arrived at the hallway to the room relatively quickly and handled the situation professionally.
Other officer across the city were rescuing people and rendering medial aid as much as they could.
Officers handled this situation very well. They quickly cut off the hallway to his room so nobody would venture into a bad situation.
The swat team was at the room within one hour and ten minutes.
You have to plan for the breach of the exact location so that officers are not killed on scene.
They need to know the layout of the room, and exactly what they are facing.
Please that you anti-Cop rant and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.
(Hug)
I thought of that at the beginning before we had as much info as we have now. I thought how easy it would be for a gunmen to barge in and take over a hotel room, fire rounds, kill the room holder and leave - penning it on the room holder. However we have all those guns that belong to Paddock & presume his prints on those guns. We also have the fact that the gunman was alive when LEAs approached the room and he shot through the door injuring a guard ... before the perp offed himself.
So there doesn't appear to be any question that Paddock did the deed.
I am so very glad that your sister and her husband are safe.
So am I.
(HUGS)
I believe the shooting lasted about 5 to 10 minutes.
It was almost 2 hours before police entered the room.
Picture of dead Stephen Paddock showed blood had congealed. He had been dead for a while.
Why did one shooter, a 64 year old retired accountant with no experience in shooting, take 24 guns and an enormous amount of ammunition up to the room? Why did he modify the rifles? Why did no one in the hotel including cleaning service and maids notice the many guns?
Paddock also supposedly set up a tripod and platform for one of his rifles. He also set up cameras and linked them to his personal computer in the room.
Why did Paddock break two windows on separate sides of the suite? If he was the only shooter one window would be enough. Authorities said several weapons were fired. Why did he switch weapons?
Original reports said multiple shooters were involved.
No motive whatsoever. ISIS claims killer was a soldier of the Islamic State.
Many unanswered questions.
Big hugs, my friend. Big hugs.
A few years back, while I was driving on the 15, I saw a stream of at least 20 siren-blaring police cars doing 100 mph before entering an offramp to the strip. It was up there with any chase scene in the movies. I found out later they were responding to a shooting at the bellagio fountains.
The lvpd treat violence on the strip as if it were a pending bomb explosion. They cannot afford to lose the strip to violence. The success and safety of the strip pays their bills.
And now that the worst had happened on the strip, it may be a devastating blow to the future of vegas.
I heard the recorded police scanner conversations.
They announced his room location between 13 and 15 minutes in, and asked for a “swat”.
It took a long time after that for the swat team to get there, but they already had a few people right there
The article said when the cops arrived at the door to his room, he fired through it hitting a security guard in the leg, so he wasn't dead.
10:57 p.m.: Officers have locked down the hallway outside the gunman's room. I have “multiple rifles and plenty of officers,” an officer says over the radio.The next 20 minutes are filled with confusion as false reports of additional shootings and a possible bomb threat pour in from all of the neighboring casinos. Officers are worried that the other reported shootings could be a diversion, but teams are sent to check out each potential threat.
That is an interesting entry in the timeline.
The number one lesson on mass shootings is the first cop on the scene, either alone or with others MUST make entry to try and stop the killer. Its called suicide entry but it has to be done. That lesson was learned at Columbine.
Anyone picking up this false information and spreading it would believe Fake Book lies and may be misrepresent it as they passed it on. I trust the information that came out as much as a weather forecast of promises of a politician.
Suicide entry???
LOL....
Yeah whatever...
One scenario was that he was engaged by armed personnel early and he might have shot himself at that time. A different explanation was that he was shooting through the door when SWAT arrived, and that when they entered, they found him dead.
Some of the accounts were that he shot anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes? Why not more? If he wasn't dead, I would have expected him to keep on shooting until he was absolutely overwhelmed, which would have meant that many more than 59 people would have been killed, and many more injured because he had a lot of time, and still a lot of ammunition.
I can buy into a belief though that he was not going to be taken alive. My question is when he actually died? Early or later? An early death would explain why he apparently stopped shooting. A later death makes one wonder why he didn't keep shooting.
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