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Based on the Early Reports, the Las Vegas Shooting Is Very, Very Strange
National Review ^ | 10-2-2017 | DAVID FRENCH

Posted on 10/03/2017 3:31:00 AM PDT by servo1969

As virtually everyone has noted from the abundant video footage of the incident, it certainly sounds as if the shooter used either fully-automatic weapons or semi-automatic weapons modified (through, for example, a bump fire stock) to closely simulate automatic fire. Moreover, the police are reporting that he had “more than 10 rifles.” He apparently rented his corner room for days and may have even set up cameras to detect when police were approaching. That’s all strange enough, but it’s even more unusual when you consider that his own family apparently didn’t know that he maintained a stockpile of guns.

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Put all this together, and the shooting is flat-out bizarre. It’s significantly different from virtually any other mass shooting in U.S. history. If the weapons were fully automatic, then he likely would have spent immense sums of money to obtain them legally, jumping through extensive legal hoops.

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So, a person who’s “not a gun guy” has either expended untold thousands of dollars to legally purchase fully-automatic weapons, somehow found them on the black market, or purchased and substantially modified multiple semi-automatic weapons — and did so with enough competence to create a sustained rate of fire. This same person also spent substantial sums purchasing just the right hotel room to maximize casualties.

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Given the firepower and the packed mass of people, it’s easy to see how the casualty count was so high, even firing from an extreme range (by the standards of mass shootings.) This was the University of Texas tower attack on steroids, conducted out of nowhere, with meticulous planning and at great expense, from a person who doesn’t seem to fit any normal profile of a mass shooter. There is much we have yet to learn, but for now, this is one of the most chilling and mysterious events I’ve ever seen.

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To: Fai Mao

Or to live in DENIAL.


141 posted on 10/03/2017 5:00:30 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: leapfrog0202

I go to Vegas a lot. Never have trouble finding a room. And I’m talking the big casinos like New York, New York, MGM, etc.


142 posted on 10/03/2017 5:01:07 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: FlipWilson

See my post #104. In this day and age the facts will emerge. They no longer completely control the narrative.

As someone once said, the times they are a’changin.


143 posted on 10/03/2017 5:01:08 AM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: Fai Mao

Or to live in DENIAL.


144 posted on 10/03/2017 5:01:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: mad_as_he$$
AP is reporting that two of the weapons were illegally modified to FA.

A lot of good those laws do, huh?

145 posted on 10/03/2017 5:02:36 AM PDT by wastedyears (Anime is real.)
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To: servo1969
Gone for 6 months at a time. Picture of gf in Dubai. Picture of him they shown is said to be in the Middle East. Modified guns(knowledge), perches(knowledge), advantage point from hotel and cameras set up (knowledge). Sorry, but this guy was trained, maybe recently but he had knowledge a "not gun nut" does not have. There is much more to this story that we are never going to be told.

ISIS is very insistent this guy was theirs. They usually do not claim something unless the at least have a little to do with it. Antifa has also claimed this guy.

So far there are only 2 pictures of this guy floating around......that in itself is a red flag.

146 posted on 10/03/2017 5:03:48 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: x1stcav

I agree that we need to give the investigators time to put this together. Nothing may be as it now appears. And the media will create its own narrative.


147 posted on 10/03/2017 5:04:02 AM PDT by Spok
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To: x1stcav

I agree that we need to give the investigators time to put this together. Nothing may be as it now appears. And the media will create its own narrative.


148 posted on 10/03/2017 5:04:08 AM PDT by Spok
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To: nonsporting

I’m guessing Trump Derangement Syndrome writ large and fueled by gambling debts.


149 posted on 10/03/2017 5:04:15 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Alberta's Child
One brother said that Stephen still owned properties with the mother. Hmmmmmm

Let's see his will and insurance policies.

There's much more to know.

But, my gut tells me that the shooting, while insane, has something to do with Fast & Furious.

150 posted on 10/03/2017 5:04:48 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: bigtoona

Where would you expect them to get pictures of him?


151 posted on 10/03/2017 5:05:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: jiggyboy

But FR is good for getting conspiracy theories going.


152 posted on 10/03/2017 5:05:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: knarf

The claim out there is that the shots were echoing. Don’t get me to lying but, it sure sounds like two different weapons. [or is the lighter sound bullets hitting the ground/objects?]


153 posted on 10/03/2017 5:07:29 AM PDT by windowdude
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To: jazzlite

That is why there is a CURE called rehab.


154 posted on 10/03/2017 5:07:43 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: SamAdams76

Sam—I am one of the Sandy Hook conspiracy nuts—a badge I wear with honor.

What convinced me was the response of the “first responders” in Fairfield County, CT. They heard about Sandy Hook on the radio (not from their bosses), immediately rushed to their local hospital helicopter staging area (without being asked) and demanded to take off so they could rescue survivors.

They were probably ten minutes from the scene by helicopter.

They wanted to rescue the wounded and take them to area hospitals since presumably all local hospital beds in Danbury would be occupied.

Only one problem.

They were ordered to stand down and given no explanation.

They only learned later that there were no wounded children at Sandy Hook to rescue.

Think about it—Las Vegas had hundreds of real wounded people taken to real hospitals.

Sandy Hook had none.


155 posted on 10/03/2017 5:07:51 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Spok

Not to mention the ghost army of internet sleuths who usually turn up pretty interesting and, at times accurate, facts.


156 posted on 10/03/2017 5:09:18 AM PDT by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: knarf

That room, and possibly the whole 32nd floor will probably never be booked again.


157 posted on 10/03/2017 5:09:59 AM PDT by cyclotic (Trump tweets are the only news source you can trust.)
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To: SamAdams76

You are a nut.


Not an argument. Tell me what statements in my post seem “normal” to you?


158 posted on 10/03/2017 5:10:07 AM PDT by magglepuss
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To: bushpilot2

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/10/03/1745169/immigration-confirms-fil-aussie-companion-vegas-shooter-was-philippines


159 posted on 10/03/2017 5:10:52 AM PDT by bushpilot2
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To: cgbg

I live in Newtown and I know several families that lost kids that day. Also, a co-worker of mine personally knew the schoolteacher who was killed.


160 posted on 10/03/2017 5:12:03 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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