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Did The Vegas Shooter Use A Fully Automatic Weapon?
hot air ^ | 10-2-17

Posted on 10/02/2017 8:58:36 AM PDT by doug from upland

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To: Yo-Yo

Any exposure I’ve had to bump fire stocks shows they are highly inaccurate. I’d be interested in seeing the ballistic distribution spread. If it’s tight, smart money is on a select fire weapon and not any sort of bump firing rig.


41 posted on 10/02/2017 9:12:50 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Several years ago, while working part time at a gun store, a “customer” came in and offered to sell me an M-60, complete with tool kit and extra barrel. Ten grand, no questions. I hastily declined thinking it may be an ATFE “trap”. But the possibilities....they are out there.


42 posted on 10/02/2017 9:12:51 AM PDT by Hornet22
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To: doug from upland

slide/bump fire; why else would he have 10 weapons? If he had a full auto belt fed weapon, he would be much more efficient with just one weapon. Also, if I had an actual full auto belt fed and was proficient in its use (which I am), I would not fire through an entire belt non-stop like he did, then pause to get next weapon, repeat. I would fire targeted burst, slight pause, targeted burst, etc.


43 posted on 10/02/2017 9:12:53 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: doug from upland

i am no full auto expert.

but can’t semi autos be converted to full auto rather cheaply?


44 posted on 10/02/2017 9:13:31 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: doug from upland

https://twitter.com/search?q=IS+FULL+AUTO+WEAPON+LEGAL&ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Enews%7Ctwgr%5Esearch


45 posted on 10/02/2017 9:13:57 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stand and honor the flag --- locking arms BS doesn't cut it)
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To: rarestia

actually retirees are the richest group of citizens as a whole.


46 posted on 10/02/2017 9:14:07 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: robroys woman

Multiple weapons.


47 posted on 10/02/2017 9:15:20 AM PDT by Ingtar (American where the flag and culture offend, but the benefits are demanded.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Oh, 400 rounds in rapid succession is not a lot. I was discussing this with one of my sons recently. With his Ruger 10/22 he can fire 25 round magazine in 15-25 seconds, swap out and resume in seconds. That’s 50-plus per minute. Ten minus equals 500. Granted larger caliber will be more taxing but bigger hands make up for that challenge.


48 posted on 10/02/2017 9:15:20 AM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: raiderboy
Full autos are illegal so laws won’t help.

Full autos are not illegal.
49 posted on 10/02/2017 9:15:37 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: doug from upland

From the description and the range of the shooting, was the shooter using something much more powerful than an assault rifle such as an AK-47/74 or an AR-15 variant? The LVMPD has show the types of weapons used, and one could be a highly-modified Browning Automatic Rifle fitted with a drum feed weapons magazine.


50 posted on 10/02/2017 9:16:17 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: Reno89519

My question is, how did he get all of that into the hotel? Do places like this allow people to bring in guns, have no detection/security system etc. ? (I don’t travel much or stay in places like that, so I don’t know about them.)


51 posted on 10/02/2017 9:16:19 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: doug from upland

Let’s see
10 minutes (600 seconds) = 515 wounded + 58 dead
that’s almost 1 killed or wounded every second


52 posted on 10/02/2017 9:16:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Men stand up for freedom; slaves kneel before their masters.)
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To: rarestia; Sopater; Lurkinanloomin

Thanks, all of you.

How likely do you think it is that this guy had it (them?) legally?


53 posted on 10/02/2017 9:17:15 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: doug from upland
There a are some shops right across the freeway in that neighborhood that advertise you can fire an automatic weapon for a fee and they have many types to choose from.

For example:

https://www.battlefieldvegas.com/

54 posted on 10/02/2017 9:17:37 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Jarhead9297; All

> can’t stop until ... expended

Completely not true.


55 posted on 10/02/2017 9:17:53 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: doug from upland

Fifty years ago I read a letter to the editor from an angry anti-hunter who thought it was fun to hunt hunters. He claimed to use a silenced rifle with the silencer smuggled in from Mexico.

Possible a smuggled in firearm, but let’s wait and see.


56 posted on 10/02/2017 9:18:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: jimbug
it sounded like this maniac had high capacity drum mags.

Unless the acoustics were distorted in multiple audio recordings, I agree with you.

57 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:04 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Tear down the Mexican Carrier plant and use the materials to build the wall)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
No way you could get off 400 rounds otherwise. Your finger would be ready to fall off halfway through that.

Admit it. You've never shot an AR-15, have you? Never done a mag dump with one?

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

58 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:16 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Trump won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of the MAGA agenda. But now the Swamp is back in control.)
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To: Jamestown1630
My question is, how did he get all of that into the hotel? Do places like this allow people to bring in guns, have no detection/security system etc. ? (I don’t travel much or stay in places like that, so I don’t know about them.

I posted on Twitter a question: did the shooter get inside help from the hotel clean staff to get all those weapons into the hotel room?

59 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:36 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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To: doug from upland

Sounded full auto to me


60 posted on 10/02/2017 9:19:46 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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