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Police shoot deaf man 'ignoring commands'
BBC News ^ | 21st September 2017 | BBC News

Posted on 09/21/2017 2:39:49 PM PDT by Ennis85

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To: stinkerpot65

If someone aggressively approaches me with a pipe I will put two rounds center mass and one in his brain housing group.


81 posted on 09/21/2017 4:21:49 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Bonemaker

Write back when you can cite (with links) that particular case. Until then and in this case you nothing rational to say!


82 posted on 09/21/2017 4:22:54 PM PDT by drpix
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To: RegulatorCountry

It’s troubling, especially as most people have below average intelligence.

;p


83 posted on 09/21/2017 4:24:11 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Bonemaker
CORRECTION: ...you have nothing rational to say!
84 posted on 09/21/2017 4:26:44 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Chode

“was he blind too??? cop pointing a gun at you with a pipe in yer hand has a 90% chance ending in tears, but it was still wrong”

I have a fine briar pipe in my hand or mouth most of the day.
Am i in danger?


85 posted on 09/21/2017 4:29:18 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: JP1201

Remember,. all that matters is that the officer gets to go home at night.

‘civilians’ are just collateral damage.


86 posted on 09/21/2017 4:29:33 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Bonemaker; Chode
If you have anything in your hands, when cops approach you, that can be mistaken for a weapon you're an idiot if you don't drop it. And that would include a tobacco pipe held in various positions.
87 posted on 09/21/2017 4:34:54 PM PDT by drpix
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To: SVTCobra03

“If someone aggressively approaches me with a pipe I will put two rounds center mass and one in his brain housing group.”

Savinelli, Stanwell, Kaywoodie?


88 posted on 09/21/2017 4:35:52 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: drpix

“If you have anything in your hands, when cops approach you, that can be mistaken for a weapon you’re an idiot if you don’t drop it. And that would include a tobacco pipe held in various positions.”

Oh isnt this precious.


89 posted on 09/21/2017 4:41:22 PM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: SVTCobra03; Bonemaker
As if how you held it didn't matter? Another anti-cop argument goes up in smoke!


90 posted on 09/21/2017 4:44:20 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Bonemaker
it's prolly cop dependent
91 posted on 09/21/2017 4:45:05 PM PDT by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: SVTCobra03

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What are you talking about?
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93 posted on 09/21/2017 4:52:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (DACA: Their dream, our nightmare... will the rule of law prevail or not?)
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To: proud American in Canada

Well, of course it’s harder to hit a target when under stress. That’s what the heck training is for. Or at least part of it should be.

That training must be working - these officers seem to have no trouble fatally wounding their targets. That gay kid in Georgia was dropped with one shot — not sure about this case.

Of course, one definitely can bleed out fairly quickly if any major artery is hit, but the risk of a fatality is considerably lower with a leg, than if “center mass” is the target. There’s also the matter of intent - if a death occurs while an officer is trying to disable (but not kill) someone, well, it’s an imperfect world. I can live with it. I have a lot more trouble with the notion that lethal force is the 1st option in certain of these cases. Shoot (bad pun), the tech exists to make a reasonably compact “bola gun”, and a hefty shot of pepper spray is pretty disabling too. (Make a “pro” / police version only obtainable by law enforcement?)

Make no mistake, I still think at least 90% of these police shootings that draw national attention ARE justified. But, some are not. There may be more evidence to come to light in this one.


94 posted on 09/21/2017 4:53:02 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: erkelly

For the first fifty or so years of your life, local governments could and did quash stories like this. It was the word of a citizen against the word of an officer of the law.

The only difference is that now almost every adult and teenager carries a phone that makes video recordings.


95 posted on 09/21/2017 5:03:47 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: JP1201
Do you have any idea of how many people are shot and killed by cops a year, and by racial breakdown, how many are justified and how many deemed a criminal act? I just did some searches and there are not that many accurate numbers. Best I can come up with. Only info is apparently from news sites, no official gov site have it. So, WaPo and the Guardian mainly, and they are cop hating commiepuke organs.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/number-people-killed-police-dropped-slightly-2016/

The number of people killed by police dropped slightly in 2016

This year the number of people killed by police stands at 957, down slightly from 991 in 2015, according to the Washington Post. While white men accounted for the most deaths by police, black men were three times more likely to be killed when population rates were factored in.

About half or so appear to be justified, that number is also very hard to find. Article link below is from 2014.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/19/law-enforcement-officers-cleared-more-than-400-tim/

Cops cleared more than 400 times each year for justified homicides

This seems like a pretty good artcle, needs to be read, here's a snip:

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

5 Statistics You Need To Know About Cops Killing Blacks

5. Blacks are more likely to kill cops than be killed by cops. This is according to FBI data, which also found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.

96 posted on 09/21/2017 5:06:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: drpix

I stand by my previous comment.

But, when it comes to dogs...

We recently had a stray, not quite adult American Staffordshire Terrier decide to adopt us. Amazingly powerful dog. Affectionate as heck to us, but very territorial with anyone else, so we had to give it up to a lady with obvious great training skills.

If that dog came at you — you’d better have something better than a metal pipe on hand, or be very strong and awfully dang good with said pipe. Because if you don’t bash in that dog’s hefty skull with a perfect 1st swing, that pipe ain’t gonna do ya’ no good.


97 posted on 09/21/2017 5:09:20 PM PDT by Paul R. (I don't want to be energy free, we want to be energy dominant in terms of the world. -D. Trump)
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To: MeganC

dITTO


98 posted on 09/21/2017 5:50:41 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: JP1201

Or your dog.


99 posted on 09/21/2017 6:15:39 PM PDT by wgmalabama
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To: erkelly

It’s not IQ. Cops are being trained like military. There is no trading to find out what’s going before shooting.


100 posted on 09/21/2017 6:52:41 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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