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Police shoot deaf man 'ignoring commands'
BBC News ^ | 21st September 2017 | BBC News

Posted on 09/21/2017 2:39:49 PM PDT by Ennis85

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To: Mears

“””And a good segment of the population seems to be anti-cop these days.

It’s a puzzlement.”””

Not really.


101 posted on 09/21/2017 6:57:06 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as well say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Ennis85

I am a staunch pro-police supporter. You can go read my posts.

This, however, appears to be cluster $&@” of bad actions. This is bad.


102 posted on 09/21/2017 8:07:04 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: eyeamok

“citizens are going to start Shooting Thus with Badges for this type of thing, rightly so.”

They already do. They are called Black Lives Matter.


103 posted on 09/21/2017 8:56:53 PM PDT by sagar
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To: humblegunner

“He must have been a curious plumber.”

It would be discriminatory to assume that one cannot be dangerous simply because one cannot hear. Deaf tot equality!


104 posted on 09/21/2017 8:59:47 PM PDT by sagar
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To: JP1201

” the most dangerous thing you or I could do is interact with a police officer.”

Especially with a pipe in your hands, disobeying commands.


105 posted on 09/21/2017 9:01:25 PM PDT by sagar
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106 posted on 09/21/2017 9:01:26 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Manly Warrior
I practice avoidance of all threat situations, therefore I obey the law and love my neighbors ( but I have a plan to.....).

My father was a Chicago lawyer who grew up in the streets. He always told me, if you ever get pulled over by a police officer, it's "Yes Sir, Yes M'am." Do whatever they say.

You can always challenge it later in court. But just don't be stupid in a high stress situation, especially when someone has a gun.

btw, please FReepmail me about the end of that sentence. LOL! ;)

107 posted on 09/21/2017 10:41:09 PM PDT by proud American in Canada
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My main question in cases like this is pretty straightforward:

If I did the exact same thing as the cop did in the exact same circumstances, would I be going to jail. I think the answer in this case is pretty obvious. If I shot someone who was just walking towards me with a pipe, I'd be looking at serious time.

108 posted on 09/22/2017 1:34:51 AM PDT by zeugma (I live in the present due to the constraints of the Space-Time Continuum. —Hank Green)
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To: erkelly
It seems for the first 50 years or so of my life, this kind of thing never, or almost never, happened. Now it happens frequently. Some years ago, I read that many police depts were trying to recruit officers with IQs of just 100. I wonder if this has something to do with this. Are we hiring dumb police officers these days?

I agree that there seem to be too many cases where cops go for the kill way too early and before other options have been exhausted.

On the flip side, way back then, there weren't as many nut cases targeting cops for assassination either.

It takes a person with exceptional situational awareness and self control to be an effective cop these days and I fear too many get in either for the thrill or for the potential of an early retirement with great benefits.

109 posted on 09/22/2017 2:38:49 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: raybbr

Many hours (hopefully) spent at the range and being trained in a warrior mentality (any officer using the word ‘civilian’ should be a clue right there). Far too little in psychology, de-scalation and other ‘less manly’ skills of actual interaction with their inferiors, us civilians.


110 posted on 09/22/2017 7:57:14 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Mears

“And a good segment of the population seems to be anti-cop these days. It’s a puzzlement.”

You know the old saying that ‘a conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged’?

Up until I was fourteen I respected cops and thought them heroes. Then a lot of drama took place in my family and I had to get used to our door periodically getting kicked in at three in the morning, arbitrary searches, I got harassed at school so they could see if I was ‘holding’, and etc.

But that’s not what really made me hate (yes, that’s the right word) big city police.

What did it for me was when my family moved to Wyoming.

Not long after we moved here we had a Park County deputy sheriff drive the two miles up our private driveway to do what? To shake hands, introduce himself, give us his card, and welcome us to the neighborhood.

Then one day I was driving and the truck broke down. I called my husband and while he was on the way another deputy came along and stayed with me until my husband showed up.

The best thing that happened was when we had two idiots from the California Franchise Tax Board show up on our property and the Park County boys came out to tell them to get lost.

See, the thing that really gets you to hate the bullies, thugs, and murderers who pretend to be police officers are the good men, honest men, and trustworthy men who quietly exemplify and embody the essence of what it is to be an American who SERVES his community as opposed to terrorizing it.


111 posted on 09/22/2017 8:59:17 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: MeganC

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

Today’s law enforcement has an “Us-Against-Them” mentality beaten into their brains. They are taught - and honestly believe - that they alone are the “thin blue line” between order and chaos.

New officers are chosen based on criteria that ensures the “necessary mindset,” given very basic training, then put on the streets with a “more experienced” officer, which in today’s “cop shortage” environment, means a guy with a year or two on the job - because anyone with significant experience is exempted by seniority. They spend six months or so on this “probation” phase - learning everything they need to be afraid of - before they’re transitioned to full duty status with rules of engagement that if employed during a military conflict, would result in war crime convictions...

And when they screw up, they’re not disciplined. Instead they close ranks and protect each other - doing whatever is necessary including planting or destroying evidence in some cases - with their actions backed up by a significant portion of the population who demand security at any cost.

What could possibly go wrong in this scenario?


112 posted on 09/22/2017 9:49:49 AM PDT by DBG8489
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To: Bonemaker
Its extremely rare you to of black cops doing this shit.

That's a VERY interesting point.

113 posted on 09/22/2017 2:14:19 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: humblegunner
He must have been a curious plumber.

Humor's not your game Bubble. I know, let's have a spelling contest.

114 posted on 09/22/2017 3:39:50 PM PDT by bagster
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