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Sad to see career officers fired.
1 posted on 09/18/2017 8:40:03 AM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: EliRoom8

Have they fired the persons responsible for allowing incompetent/negligent folks to be recruited into and serve in the Navy “driving” our warships? What about the recruited incompetents...are they still driving the ships?

What is the Navy hiding?


2 posted on 09/18/2017 8:45:54 AM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: EliRoom8

I wonder if they are really the culprits for this or just the sacrificial lambs?


3 posted on 09/18/2017 8:46:08 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: EliRoom8

Something is really stinking.


4 posted on 09/18/2017 8:46:40 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: EliRoom8

No. Its sad to see Americans die needlessly because of inept career officers


5 posted on 09/18/2017 8:47:09 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Build The Wall !! Jail The Cankle !!)
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To: EliRoom8

Politically correct policies and diversity just might not be consistent with seamanship and military preparedness. It will take a very long time for the Obama commissars to be purged from the military and replaced with true warriors. The damage done by their malfeasance will not be corrected soon.


6 posted on 09/18/2017 8:53:22 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: EliRoom8

Seems like they should at least finish the investigations before firing people.


9 posted on 09/18/2017 8:59:06 AM PDT by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: EliRoom8

So the Navy has fired some top officers.

When will the Navy release the Fitzgerald investigation report? How long does it take to spin the navigation errors by the Fitzgerald? It has been three months since the Fitzgerald collision.

Maybe the top officers that have been fired thus far deserve to be fired. I do not know. Nor do I know if their replacements are more competent.

Or are these top officers due to retire soon and being terminated makes it look like the Navy is doing something?

Until the Navy releases the detailed reports on how these collisions happened, all this other stuff is a distraction.


10 posted on 09/18/2017 9:01:19 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: TXnMA; rlmorel

ping


11 posted on 09/18/2017 9:01:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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To: EliRoom8
Not sad to me. I know several career officers that were not fired even though they deserved it.

If there was incompetence in the recent Navy problems, why were the Captains picked?

Because they were the best? (I hope so)

Because they supported Trans gender (who cares)?

Etc.

Bottom line from my foxhole is that if there is a collision the Captain is at fault (the reality of command).

If there are 2 or more collisions in less than a year, than the command did not take the correct steps, they need to be fired.

Now if we could just start applying these rules to US GVT civilians.

17 posted on 09/18/2017 9:15:16 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: EliRoom8

Love to find out what exactly they know about MH370, the long-lost flight from KL to Beijing a la TWA800.


18 posted on 09/18/2017 9:19:21 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: EliRoom8
Sad to see career officers fired.
Sad? Not nearly as sad as the 17 funerals for the dead sailors.
19 posted on 09/18/2017 9:20:16 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: EliRoom8

Can we also remove the actual John McCain?


20 posted on 09/18/2017 9:23:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Anitfa = Anti-F.A. = Anti-First Amendment)
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To: EliRoom8

I heard one of the reasons for the collisions was a change in ship operation from having three people on duty who were in charge of visually watching for ships and other obstacles during a watch to only having one person doing the job on a destroyer. this would explain the removal of officers up the chain of command from the boat that had the collision.


26 posted on 09/18/2017 9:46:57 AM PDT by PCPOET7
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To: EliRoom8

Dirty shame our rotten politicians and judges arent held to the same strict levels of accountability that the military is.


29 posted on 09/18/2017 9:57:01 AM PDT by Bonemaker
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To: EliRoom8

The fact that the Navy is not citing a violation of a specific navagational rule as it did with the Indinanapolis suggests these incidents occured because of changes in naval navagation procedures. Frankly both ships sound like they were on autopilot controls


30 posted on 09/18/2017 10:06:00 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin)
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To: EliRoom8

Not sticking up for ANYONE and if guilty of misconduct, malaise or malfeasance find the nearest yardarm and dispatch them.

That said, they have to work with what is sent to them and sometimes if one ‘complains’ too much, they are relieved.

Back during the McNamara 100,000 campaign, a lot of ‘bad apples’ were PUT in the military and the DIs had to cope with them.

The services had to put a cap on how many people they could ‘flunk out’ of boot camp and some of the ‘wise guys’ would ‘act right’ until the ‘allowed’ number were vanished forever.

During that period some of the ‘Drug Gangs’ had people - otherwise ineligible - enlist to get to SE Asia to get into the drug field....

The CO had absolute command and he could have been ‘shacked up in Long Beach’ and something happen on his ship and HE was completely at fault.

The Pueblo incident ‘changed’ a lot of that when they tried to charge Capt Bucher with dereliction of duty because he didn’t properly dispose of the classified material in a timely manner.

His ‘defense’ was that he was NOT allowed into certain spaces and there was no way he could be ‘responsible’ if he wasn’t allowed free movement aboard his ship.

After that the CO is ‘God Almight’ took a hit and like anything else, the first watering down of ANY procedure, standard, rule etc just leads to general chaos.


32 posted on 09/18/2017 10:20:32 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""If the earth were flat, cats would have pushed everything over the edge by now")
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