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Trump told that Paris Agreement is ‘irreversible and non-negotiable’
EURACTIV ^ | September 17, 2017 | Sam Morgan

Posted on 09/17/2017 10:30:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 09/17/2017 10:30:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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That is such bull shiite.


2 posted on 09/17/2017 10:35:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t even need to read that article to know that they couldn’t be more wrong.


3 posted on 09/17/2017 10:35:56 PM PDT by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sigh.


4 posted on 09/17/2017 10:36:04 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

they plan to market Brawndo worldwide


5 posted on 09/17/2017 10:38:02 PM PDT by KTM rider
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Tillerson is a friggin saboteur doing his best to undermine Presdent Trump. If Trump holds his course on pulling out of the ridiculous accord, history will show he had great wisdom & foresight. The saboteur globalists don’t want that!


6 posted on 09/17/2017 10:38:31 PM PDT by House Atreides (Send BOTH Hillary & Bill to prison.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I call bullshit on that.


7 posted on 09/17/2017 10:38:38 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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The terms of the Paris Agreement are set in stone, the EU, China and Canada agreed at a summit in Montreal this weekend

Great news, we have no reason to be in it then.

8 posted on 09/17/2017 10:39:59 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Many accords like this wind up forcing expensive compliance by Western countries while making excuses for other countries to do anything they want to environmentally.


9 posted on 09/17/2017 10:40:07 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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You are right, Russian and China are both filthy.


10 posted on 09/17/2017 10:44:33 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Someone correct me if I'm wrong: Since the U.S. Senate never ratified the treaty, there is no legally binding agreement.

When Obama had the Senate, they didn't ratify it. Its not going to happen under Trump.

For fun, try searching google or bing on "pollution map" and think about what turns up.

11 posted on 09/17/2017 10:46:29 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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Well that’s nice.

The US constitution says otherwise


12 posted on 09/17/2017 10:48:26 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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“...other countries in attendance, agreed the “agreement is irreversible and non-negotiable.”

Well bless their hearts... Their so cute when they think they have any authority. Come TRY to enforce it.


13 posted on 09/17/2017 10:52:48 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Next thing you know, 'ol Jed's a millionaire)
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“with the collapse of ambition in the United States, Europe will ensure we make our planet great again. Our ambitious climate policy agenda has the most important backing of all.”

Translation: their taxes will skyrocket, while the China, Russia, and India continue to pollute on a Biblical scale.

14 posted on 09/17/2017 10:53:33 PM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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No news here. Tillerson is repeating what has been Trump’s position all along: renegotiate and we can talk. Otherwise, no. As for the Accord being “non-negotiable”, well, that sort of answers the question, doesn’t it? This part, at least, is irreversible and non-negotiable: no Senate ratification, no treaty. Period.


15 posted on 09/17/2017 10:54:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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A person who signs a contract with a minor has little recourse if the minor refuses to live up to the agreement. Minors are typically unable to enter into binding contracts.

Similarly, the government of the United States does not have the authority to enter into an agreement with a foreign nation in any way that cannot be undone by a future government of the United States. To think otherwise is to grant power to the government which is nowhere to be found in the Constitution.

16 posted on 09/17/2017 10:55:44 PM PDT by William Tell
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True. But the whole thing is just a handshake agreement in the first place. Obama never submitted to the Senate to be ratified as a treaty, which would be legally binding on us.

Heck, Obama never submitted the deal with Iran to be ratified as a treaty either. I would love to know how Obama was authorized to send a planeload of cash, actual currency from various countries, over to Iran as part of the deal.


17 posted on 09/17/2017 11:01:40 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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The terms of the Paris Agreement are set in stone, the EU, China and Canada agreed at a summit in Montreal this weekend,


So we are obligated to do what these countries have decided?? Really??? They decided it is set in stone??? So we have to comply??? This doesn’t make sense.........


18 posted on 09/17/2017 11:11:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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We’ll then, bye. We’re out.


19 posted on 09/17/2017 11:15:57 PM PDT by conservative98
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Heck, so what if it were a treaty that actually WAS ratified by the Senate? My Choctaw folks have a lot of experience with signing a treaty with people in Washington, D.C. Not usually worth the paper it was written on.

The U.S. should just ignore the whole thing. Forget what Obama said or did and tell the Paris folks that things had changed.


20 posted on 09/17/2017 11:17:31 PM PDT by oldplayer
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