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Is Amazon's Shipping Policy A Form Of Consumer Fraud?
Forbes ^ | Laurence Kotlikoff | May 23, 2016

Posted on 09/16/2017 7:53:01 PM PDT by grundle

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To: Wizdum
Check to make sure UPS isn't handing it off to the USPS. The USPS has lost 3 of our packages and delivers the rest 3-4 days later.

There is my issue. I have never had a UPS delivered Amazon package be late, but at least 1/2 of those that UPS turns over to USPS to deliver are late. Some are delivered to neighbors, some marked unable to deliver due to a dog (which we don't have) and many marked delivered that come sometime in the next 2 days.

81 posted on 09/17/2017 5:30:25 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: nclaurel

Lately, it’s been awful.


82 posted on 09/17/2017 5:31:38 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: harpu

Exactly. I had a cousin pass away recently in Australia and sent flowers via FTD. The time was short and I specifically asked about the time to the order taker. No problem. Turns out it was since whoever they used delivered them 7 hours late. The memorial service long over. Took me almost a month to find this out. They issued a refund but the failed implied promise ruined things.


83 posted on 09/17/2017 5:36:12 AM PDT by xp38
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To: grundle

I find Amazon to be far more blessing than curse.


84 posted on 09/17/2017 5:39:28 AM PDT by The Duke ( Azealia Banks)
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To: grundle

It’s screw you customer, but not fraud.


85 posted on 09/17/2017 5:49:09 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only option for remaining sane in a criminally insane world.)
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To: grundle

It’s interesting how peoples’ experiences can vary. I’ve never had a shipping mishap with Amazon. In fact, they usually exceed my expectations. But I always have in the back of my mind the possibility of stuff happening, and allow enough time to implement a plan B if plan A goes belly-up. Allegations of corporate fraud seem a bit overwrought, and taking it out on customer service people is NEVER the right thing to do. How about remembering your wife’s birthday (or whomever) more than 24 hours from the date?!


86 posted on 09/17/2017 6:19:43 AM PDT by Wheelman81
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To: Jamestown1630

It seems from browsing through these post that much depends on service locally.

Fortunately for me, the vast majority of my Amazon purchases, and they are a lot of them, are on time or early. Not unusual to get Sunday evening deliveries via USPS even.


87 posted on 09/17/2017 6:33:19 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Fed Ex, on the other hand, always delivers on time, even on the next day, without any problems, via Amzon.

Don't make me laugh, add I sit here the next day and my FedEx package, which is on the truck for delivery as of 5:10a yesterday, is still on the truck!

88 posted on 09/17/2017 6:44:36 AM PDT by RedWing9 (Jesus Rocks Zero Sucks)
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To: Hildy
This article is from 2016

But it didn't arrive at FR until today?

I'm calling Forbes right now!!!

89 posted on 09/17/2017 6:50:05 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: grundle

Companies have to be complaint driven, they can’t just watch all the tracking numbers and make assumptions for one thing UPS lies. And when you do complain Amazon is very responsive. I had one large order I swear UPS ran it over, the box was split, about a third of the stuff wasn’t there, half of what was left was damaged. I took a bunch of pictures, e-mailed Amazon to start the process, figured we’d have to go itemized, they apologized and just sent out the entire order again, didn’t ask for pictures or anything. Good enough for me.


90 posted on 09/17/2017 7:01:11 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: Fhios

I was just on chat with Amazon, I had payed for one day shipping, and the current delivery is 9-19. They have initiated a refund of the expedited shipping charge in under 10 minutes.. Your mileage may vary


91 posted on 09/17/2017 7:39:39 AM PDT by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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To: Jamestown1630
(As an aside, USPS is still very good with parcels in our area; things often arrive well before the anticipated date.)

I think that is because on anything other than a guaranteed express delivery the USPS's anticipated date is "a week or so" . On the other hand UPS and FedEx have anticipated times based on scheduled routes which are nearly impossible to beat and are occasionally missed if a package is misrouted or a truck is late.

92 posted on 09/17/2017 7:41:50 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The Whig Party died when it fled the great fight of its century. Ditto for the Republicans now.)
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To: harpu
LOL! Waiting until the last minute leaves lots of room for "problems" to occur. Amazon uses an external shipper for such things, yet the poster was pissed at them because of a SNAFU. If he had decided to order his wife's birthday present a few days earlier, when overnight wasn't the only way to get it on time, he wouldn't have run into the problem.

Granted, he should have an avenue to get a refund but he still caused his own problem.

93 posted on 09/17/2017 7:43:45 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Fightin Whitey

Very clever. :)


94 posted on 09/17/2017 9:03:04 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: grania

That’s a good point. Many low income people in my area, especially elderly, walk, use public transportation, wait at bus stops a lot, etc.


95 posted on 09/17/2017 10:10:33 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: davandbar

It may depend on whether you’re in a metropolitan or more suburban or rural area. We’re in the DC metro area.

(I was looking at a video this morning about Barrow, Alaska, and told my husband, so much for Amazon, if we lived in a place like that. Everything has to come by plane, with perhaps a few boats a year, and you pay exorbitantly for everything ;-)


96 posted on 09/17/2017 10:15:23 AM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: grundle

“I asked (with a rude tone of voice) how could that be? Isn’t it the same electronic system being used?”

I can answer this. Amazon has a database called a warehouse management system. UPS is on their own warehouse management system. Amazon is scanning the package stating they dropped it or shipped it someplace. This does not mean that UPS has accepted it. It may be sitting in a truck at the UPS location waiting to be unloaded 10 containers down the list. Until UPS scans acceptance they cannot say where it is and it is not in their possession but in the possession of the trucking company with the bill of lading.

Amazon knows this.. they just don’t want to say it because it continues to be something they have less control of - depending on who is doing the trucking.

If it doesn’t arrive on time there should be an auto refund of the additional charges - but I’m not holding my breath. Just plan better and don’t pay for the extra charges.


97 posted on 09/17/2017 10:46:19 AM PDT by reed13k
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To: grundle
I live in a city the house a major Amazon shipping fulfillment center.

I have ordered items several times late on a Sunday evening that came with FREE shipping, or $5.00 shipping charge, and I've received the item on Tuesday morning before 10:30 AM via UPS delivery.

The turnaround time from order to delivery was approx 36 hours.

The moral of the story: Live in a city with an Amazon fulfillment center and there is NO NEED to enroll in Amazon's Prime.

98 posted on 09/17/2017 12:02:37 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: grundle
I live in a city that houses a major Amazon shipping fulfillment center.

I have ordered items several times late on a Sunday evening that came with FREE shipping, or $5.00 shipping charge, and I've received the item on Tuesday morning before 10:30 AM via UPS delivery.

The turnaround time from order to delivery was approx 36 hours.

The moral of the story: Live in a city with an Amazon fulfillment center and there is NO NEED to enroll in Amazon's Prime.

99 posted on 09/17/2017 12:03:28 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Hildy

You’re a good sport, which we don’t have enough of these days.

Cheers!


100 posted on 09/17/2017 5:27:27 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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