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I haven't posted this for a while:

"Let me tell you something about humans, nephew: They're a wonderful, friendly people - as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working." "But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those friendly, intelligent, wonderful people...will become as nasty and as violent as the most blood-thirsty Klingon."  Quark from: The Siege of AR-558


1 posted on 09/10/2017 10:14:03 PM PDT by Kartographer
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Welcome to the Tribulation.


2 posted on 09/10/2017 10:16:27 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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I don’t know. I mean this is the NYT and it’s been what, one day?


3 posted on 09/10/2017 10:19:48 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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A little preview of what to expect when, one day, all the EBT debit cards flash “NSF”.


4 posted on 09/10/2017 10:24:11 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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No preparation?! All the food is gone. Stupid. And not our problem.


7 posted on 09/10/2017 10:26:29 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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Evidently, the Caribbean doesn’t warehouse and food supplies — none whatsoever.

What are the odds the criminals have horded the food supplies... Or what are the odds NYT has trouble with reality...


9 posted on 09/10/2017 10:34:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Just more horse shiite from the NYT. These people are surrounded by an ocean teeming with edible seafood. This is either your garden variety looting or a big pile of NYT stupid.


10 posted on 09/10/2017 10:42:20 PM PDT by SanchoP
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Circa 1965 Hurricane Betsy in South Louisiana. The Southern end of Lafourche Parish was devastated. Their was no looting nor crime. People helped people.

In my home we had no electricity for about 10 days. We had a freezer full of meat. When it thawed we ate the hell out of steak and my parents had me load the rest of it up and give it to others as it would go bad if not cooked and eaten in a few days.

What you are seeing is a dependent class with no self standards. It is not pretty. This dependent class is a function of supposedly benevolent government policy which in fact is evil, but not evil by design but is evil. It is good intentions that are constructed without any insight into human nature. It is a failure!

Government policy by and large destroys self worth in relationship to social norms and decency. As such it has the power to destroy a civil society. If you doubt this analysis just look at Chicago.


11 posted on 09/10/2017 10:44:12 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud-man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, CONSTITUTION WORTH DYING FOR!)
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But by nightfall on Thursday, what had been a search for food took a more menacing turn, as groups of looters, some of them armed, swooped in and took whatever of value was left: electronics, appliances and vehicles.

Sounds like what most any city with an underclass ghetto will be like before long. Disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes just free the inner-feral in the inner cities.

Keep well stocked with ammo.

12 posted on 09/10/2017 10:44:46 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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The Virgin Islands seem to have been hit the hardest by Irma of anywhere in the US. There are a lot of houses completely destroyed.


13 posted on 09/10/2017 10:48:57 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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St Martin has 2 parts...half the island belongs to France the other is Dutch...

and there are a lot of descendants of former black slaves...

the main industry is tourism...5,6 or more ships every day...

they do make a few dinky souvenirs but most of it comes from China...they don’t make anything substantial and most of their goods comes from the mainland’s...

lots of poverty...


14 posted on 09/10/2017 10:59:28 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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Notice that NYTimes could not help but put in a plug for the Cuban Communist government. I have real doubts about their knowledge of facts on the ground in Cuba:

“Cuba is very organized,” said Orlando Eorlsando, 53, as he replaced his front door with bloated plywood in Havana. “The priority of the government is to keep people safe and preserve life.”

While the Cuban response seemed to be a well-oiled machine, elsewhere in the Caribbean the government reaction has been halting, critics say.


19 posted on 09/10/2017 11:53:08 PM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I worked on a cruise ship for about 10 months. In that time I visited St Maarten probably 17 times. Antigua probably five times, the Bahamas probably 11 x etc et. Most of those islands have a horseshoe of nice shops around the pier where the boats land and two blocks or even one block behind those nice stores is rank ghetto and if you think that there is anything more than the thinnest veneer of civilization in those locations I think you would be mistaken. The Bahamas is somewhat different but not especially so . I think that you will see that if the news reports it under these conditions. Most of the people there are barely surviving.....there is no industry and the fact that the climate is so mild means that they can live in shorts and t-shirts all year long and never really have to do anything except feed their face once in awhile. And that is how the great majority of them live and if you went there you would see that and you would reach the same conclusion.


30 posted on 09/11/2017 2:32:30 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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Ahhh the thin veneer of polite society.


31 posted on 09/11/2017 2:50:53 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Not my circus. Not my monkeys.)
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From the Caribbean, post-Irma.


37 posted on 09/11/2017 4:36:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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But by nightfall on Thursday, what had been a search for food took a more menacing turn, as groups of looters, some of them armed, swooped in and took whatever of value was left: electronics, appliances and vehicles.

The usual suspects?

39 posted on 09/11/2017 4:49:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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We’re not even survivalists or food horders, but if the stores closed today we’d have about two weeks worth of food to hold us over.

And then there are the dogs and the wild critters. I’ve got plenty of ammo...


41 posted on 09/11/2017 5:04:59 AM PDT by robroys woman
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This sounds like a great opportunity for Hillary and Podesta to make a quick profit buying West Indian kids to sell on the pedophile market.

Hey, it worked in Haiti, ya know? Gotta replace all that income that dried up when Hillary lost the election, after all...

44 posted on 09/11/2017 5:08:30 AM PDT by Kenton
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Welcome back! Your posts in the past have been great for us preppers...to say the least.

As to this, I always like to sarcastically post that there is a Sam’s Club 5 miles from my house, and the are ALWAYS fully stocked - so I’ll just go there and get what I need after “it” happens (like an EMP). I could live for 100 years with what they have in stock. LOL.

In our case, a lot of people would get a lot healthier if they lost access to most of their food for a few months...a few years, that’s too long, they’ll starve...but a few months - would help them a lot. As to water, yea, they do need that. Pretty sad they run out in a few days. It’s crazy not to have at least a couple of weeks of water ready when a storm approaches.


49 posted on 09/11/2017 5:17:47 AM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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Just saw that one the other night. Best observation of human nature ever.


51 posted on 09/11/2017 5:29:31 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The UK has no death penalty, unless you are an 11 month old infant with no arrest history)
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Nickname: The Friendly Island

Beautiful place and I’m pretty sure I’d go fishing and diving for food.

on the backside of the island there is an ocean full of food.


58 posted on 09/11/2017 6:08:55 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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