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California initiative would legalize psychedelic mushrooms
The Hill ^ | 08/30/17 04:10 PM EDT | Reid Wilson

Posted on 08/30/2017 7:53:54 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: nopardons
Long ago, on this site, when some were in favor of legalizing pot, the arguments raged that soon people would try to legalize ALL proscribed illicit substances. The legalization side poo pooed us.

Link or it didn't happen.
21 posted on 08/30/2017 8:28:47 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

Contraband law is a Tyrannical joke...


22 posted on 08/30/2017 8:29:42 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: nopardons
Long ago, on this site, when some were in favor of legalizing pot, the arguments raged that soon people would try to legalize ALL proscribed illicit substances. The legalization side poo pooed us.

So far this is a non-story.

1) California Atty General would need to approve the language of this one guy's proposed initiative.
2) Guy would need to get hundreds of thousands of Californians to sign his petition.
3) If steps (1) and (2) are satisfied, this proposal would go on the ballot to be voted on in a California election.

Every year, people come up with all sorts of fanciful ideas for ballot measures. The overwhelming majority never get past steps (1) or (2), let alone step (3). Anyone can file papers for a ballot initiative about anything at all - doesn't mean it's every going to be voted into law.
23 posted on 08/30/2017 8:35:12 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: American in Israel

Show me this study. Because every one I’ve seen shows moderate use of psilocibin is 100% safe and actually shows positive effects. Such as more motivation, better focus and less depression.

I’ve met hundreds of people who have eaten and studied magic mushrooms through neuroscience workshops around the world. I’ve never met anyone who hasn’t reported PROFOUND improvement in their life on a deep level


24 posted on 08/30/2017 8:35:56 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

I do know that; however, look at some of the crap that has been made into law, in that state.


25 posted on 08/30/2017 8:38:37 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: eyeamok

God also made the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.


26 posted on 08/30/2017 8:39:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Graybeard58; eyeamok
"God made poisonous plants too. Eat them and you will die."

You know that doesn't really make any sense in relation to what eyeamok said, right?
27 posted on 08/30/2017 8:40:01 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: fr_freak
I don't do links, you WERE here back then, so IF you don't know about those threads, the fault is yours.

And your argument is puerile, meritless, and patently ridiculous.

28 posted on 08/30/2017 8:40:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Yes, sadly we were right. And our former decent American culture is headed into the trash bin. Nearly everything I see and read points to American cultural suicide.


29 posted on 08/30/2017 8:48:01 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Olog-hai

And here I thought all Kalifornians were already stoned out of their minds


30 posted on 08/30/2017 8:49:36 PM PDT by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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To: Professional
"Why do taxpayers have to pay the medical bills ?"

Why assume they do?

31 posted on 08/30/2017 8:57:02 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Bernard Marx

It’s those kids and that jungle music they listen to, Mildred.


32 posted on 08/30/2017 8:58:18 PM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Bernard Marx
Yes, we were and how very quickly things changed, since you and I were n00bs here.

The cultural suicide is almost complete; we aren't all that far removed from what has happened in Europe.

33 posted on 08/30/2017 9:03:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons; eyeamok

Opium (and derivatives like heroin) are the strongest pain killer and cough suppressant known. Many people would not be able to live without it. Damn right it was put here for our use. And yes,even deadly things like arsenic have great purposes.

Just because 1% abuse it, doesnt mean it should be banned for the 99%. Why is opium only sold only as overpriced pills only affordable to the rich (and subsidized)? Man was intended to grow and use his own food, herbs and medicine INDEPENDENDLY of these money grubbers.

End this insane corporate war on ALL plants so free men can study and use them as needed. PERIOD.

If someone is an addict, they need to be individually treated for the spiritual disease that ails them. Don’t ban free natural medicine for good people!


34 posted on 08/30/2017 9:04:04 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: mlo
Why assume that we don't ?

We pay, through taxes, one way or another, whether it is welfare, hospitalizations, or other things...we pay!

35 posted on 08/30/2017 9:05:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
And your argument is puerile, meritless, and patently ridiculous.

LOL - what argument? All I said was "Link or it didn't happen." If you heard or saw anything else, that means it is time to take your medication again.
36 posted on 08/30/2017 9:13:31 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Olog-hai

I tried the Magic mushroom once when I was twenty. Not bad. Found it growing on a cow pie. Still can’t believe I put that in my mouth.


37 posted on 08/30/2017 9:15:40 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Graybeard58

“God made poisonous plants too. Eat them and you will die.”

Yes, but we found that if you use some poisonous plants the right way, they are medical.

Banning plants of ANY kind is purposeful legislated IGNORANCE. Period. The fewer people can grow these plants, the less we can discover and know about them.


38 posted on 08/30/2017 9:15:48 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga
You're part of the problem; sadly, you don't understand what you're posting about.

You should, perhaps, rethink why you believe you belong on this site.

Yes, I did read you personal page and perhaps your background explains a bit of your thinking; but maybe it doesn't. So lets see just WHY and HOW you managed to come to the asinine conclusions you have, on this topic.

Have you ever studied the history of opium and its derivatives? Are you aware of the history of "patent medicines", especially in the USA? If not.....WHY NOT, since you're so stupidly keen on the legalization of illicit products ?

More then 1% of the American population is, sadly, addicted to garbage that makes them criminals, addlepated, insane, dangerous to themselves and others, and a burden on society in general, and/or dead.

Even, or more accurately, when all of these substances were legal, except for Civil War vets and those given these substances as medicine, those who used them RECREATIONALLY , were the fringe of the fringe of the fringe! They didn't get welfare ( nor even were they "on the Dole" as it was once called )and were looked down upon by society at large!

Times have changed, American mores, customs, and culture destroyed, and now people are forced to pay for those who not only destroy themselves and their families, but who do very real harm to others and society in general.

Frankly, your irrational, benighted, uneducated post makes me wonder how much of a hedonistic doper YOU are.

39 posted on 08/30/2017 9:22:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: eyeamok

There are mushrooms that will liquify organs in 24 hours. Maybe we can go the natural route if big pharma is going to keep denying state’s their death drugs for convicted murderers.


40 posted on 08/30/2017 9:31:40 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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