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Talking to a German reveals Leftism’s cognitive dissonance
Bookwormroom.com ^ | 8-14-2017 | Bookworm

Posted on 08/15/2017 3:54:49 AM PDT by servo1969

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1 posted on 08/15/2017 3:54:49 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

very telling pic


2 posted on 08/15/2017 3:59:23 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: servo1969; Berlin_Freeper; NathanBedfordForrest

Article Ping for the locals...


3 posted on 08/15/2017 4:05:29 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: servo1969

Germans are mentally paralyzed by reminding them of thier past Nazi & authoritarian practices. (Aside: Though if you go back and study Imperial Germany you will discover that the government was NOT as oppressive as is “popularly” thought. For example voter suffrage was more widespread then the UK. For the time they had social services that were very well developed, a universal pension system was present and efficiently run, etc. The biggest problem was no one liked Kaiser Wilhelm II on a personal basis!)

You mentally paralyze an American (particularly a politician!) by finding a way to call him/her a racist.

And the MSM in both countries amplify this!


4 posted on 08/15/2017 4:11:14 AM PDT by Reily
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To: yldstrk

There are generally only two areas of Germany where you have the combo of ‘welcome refugees’ and anti-capitalism....Hamburg and Berlin. There are numerous metropolitan areas with just the theme of ‘welcome refugees’ but marginalized showing of anti-capitalism.

The theme for the ‘welcome’ deal worked until the evening of 31 December 2015...in Koln. After the thousand-odd police reports of groping and sexual assault...the news media was pushed back and the government was forced into a massive repair job.

The spring 2016 solution was for the Germans to get the EU money guys and Turkey into one room and work up a deal where the Turks would stop the smuggling rings and hold back refugees. The deal that the Turks wanted was entry into the EU, a EU-visa ease of entry for them, and stacks of money (the eventual amount was 3-billion Euro a year). Because the Germans don’t see the money going from Germany to Turkey...people don’t get excited. The German contribution was roughly 950-million Euro...the rest of the EU paid the remaining amount. The EU entry won’t occur (ever), and the visa thing is still on the table. I would guess that all of the three billion Euro goes to supporting the Syrians in camps, but various middle-guys are taking 150-percent profit off services/goods.

All of this effort brought the yearly entry of immigrants and migrants back down to 250,000 to 300,000 a year (their average for the past decade before the crisis).

If you add up the total on 2013 to 2016...it’s near 2.25 million...but their numbers always indicate that around half-a-million have left or been ordered out. Probably another 300,000 in some line to be eventually sent out.

The game which none of the pro-asylum Germans understood...there’s still immigration paperwork to fill out, and a process. The Syrians and Iraqis have a 95-percent chance of being approved. Everyone else runs from five to fifteen-percent of approval. No skills, no real education? No approval unless you are from some war-zone. All the pro-asylum Germans did was create a giant holding deal with a large sum of the migrants thinking they were going to automatically get ‘status’...which is NOT the case.

In the last two or three months, Germans have begun to realize that all these empty refugee camps that they opened are rented spaces, and you can figure at least 25-million Euro a month is thrown away with contracts written in 2014-to-2016...that they can’t easily get out of. On the business of handling migrants and thinking ahead....these weren’t the BMW engineers or the Von Braun rocket scientists....these were poor managers with no real guidance.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 4:16:19 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: servo1969

It *must* be in the German blood....do everything possible to disrupt and destroy.


6 posted on 08/15/2017 4:17:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: pepsionice

Mark Steyn has pointed out for years that, even without the current influx, the Western European birth rate is so low compared to the Muslim invaders that Europe as we’ve known it will be unrecognizable in 30 or 40 years. That’s pretty heady stuff– the takeover of the continent by the Muslims and barely a shot fired...


7 posted on 08/15/2017 4:22:43 AM PDT by IncPen (Progressivism is in perpetual need of an enemy against which to refresh its outrage.)
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To: Reily

If we are racist for supporting President Trump, then Liberals are child abusers for supporting abortion.

As for offending people, you reach a certain age when you say what you want and you don’t care who gets mad. I’ve reached that age.


8 posted on 08/15/2017 4:24:03 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: IncPen
And uncontrolled immigration of Islam grows government exponentially, erodes individual liberty, gives the police state a foothold, and lowers wages for a middle class while raising the tax burden to pay for the suicidal mess.

This is the Obama-Soros fundamental transformation of society they aim for.

9 posted on 08/15/2017 4:31:09 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: servo1969

100%, Servo1969.

I have said this for years, that liberalism is a mental disorder, and they are dangerously unstable because they live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.

In Orwell’s “1984”, they have to constantly engage (as second nature) in “Doublethink” (the ability to hold two completely contradictory thoughts simultaneously while believing both of them to be true)

This is not the act of pretending to believe both things have to be true...critically, this is the goal of BELIEVING both things to be true, even though they cannot be.

This is the normal state of affairs in modern liberalism, and it is sick and unhealthy, and explains why most acts of violence of all kinds (particularly mass murder) are committed by liberals.


10 posted on 08/15/2017 4:34:04 AM PDT by rlmorel (Those who sit on the picket fence are impaled by it.)
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To: NTHockey

I, too, do not bite my tongue nearly to the extent I did as a young man. I also am not nearly as vitriolic as I was then. To me, today, truth needs to be spoken especially if the hearer is not willing to hear it.


11 posted on 08/15/2017 4:41:44 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Progressivism is 2 year olds in a poop fight.)
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To: IncPen

This too is an interesting topic....on the birth-rate business in Germany. About three years ago, I saw where a German university went out and looked at first, second, and third generation immigrants to Germany (lots of data from the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s and 1990s). The impression was that trend that you talk about would be obvious. Well...no.

What they found was that while the first generation might have gone to the old-country activity of three, four, five kids....the second and third generation kids grew up and adapted to the German system....either zero, one or two kids.

Reason? This triggered a fair amount of discussion and what they think is that the German system of taxation, high cost of living, open knowledge on birth-control, and high cost of rent....make large families in Germany practically impossible.

They eventually acknowledged that you can open the door and have immigrants come in, and you’d have to do this often because the migrants always adapt back to the 1.5 kids per couple.

If you go and look for an apartment big enough to handle a couple and four kids....you’d be shocked at the cost, and how few of these exist in Germany.

I sat there six months ago and did a graphical chart, with the 1.5 kid situation and negative numbers. What I eventually came to size up....unless immigration were to change this situation....is that you go from the 82-million Germans of today....in about 1,200 years....down to the last 10,000 Germans. This trend has been in place for almost fifty years now, and I don’t see much of anything changing that.


12 posted on 08/15/2017 4:43:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: servo1969

——Germany, seeks to expunge its existential guilt over WWII——

I would argue differently.

Sweden is or has killed herself by the suicide of Islam. Sweden has no guilt.

The fact that untold millions were killed by the wars, not counting the Jewish genocide, produced an antiwar mindset. The antiwar mindset will not allow any action that could induce war. The result is suicide by Islam


13 posted on 08/15/2017 4:45:18 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: servo1969

And as usual in English.


14 posted on 08/15/2017 4:48:41 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: pepsionice

I may be thinking wrong, oranges, apples, but the situation in Europe today seems to be a repeat of the Goths and Rome. An invasion and capture and massive Roman death was not necessary.

The Romans just pissed it away


15 posted on 08/15/2017 4:56:46 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: servo1969
Verbleibenalle seems to mean something like "everyone remains" or "keep them all."
16 posted on 08/15/2017 4:57:42 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: Reily

I prefer the term German instead of “Nazi” when referencing WW2. Enough coddling.


17 posted on 08/15/2017 5:03:03 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: servo1969

I know a few Germans and Dutch who are emigrating to the states and South America


18 posted on 08/15/2017 5:10:13 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: rlmorel; servo1969

Doublethink: knowing the truth but selectively rejecting it in favor of ‘politically correct’ madness. Those who select madness are afraid of rejection, of being called names, of being cast outside of the herd. Being brought into a condition of double think is to the lunatic Left the fruit of the consensus process.


19 posted on 08/15/2017 5:10:21 AM PDT by spirited irish
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Yeah, and if they are not politically correct they will be fired from their jobs and rejected by their friends. In other words,: Their Government is their God and they will be turned into a piller of salt if they disobey.:socialism is death


20 posted on 08/15/2017 5:30:14 AM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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