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Report: Movie Box Office On Track for Lowest in 25 Years (TR)
Showbiz 411 ^ | 14 Aug 17 | Roger Friedman

Posted on 08/15/2017 3:11:39 AM PDT by SkyPilot

Reports now, according to Exhibitor Relations: if things continue as they have, this will be the lowest box office in a quarter century. While there have been bright spots (“Dunkirk”) and surprises (“Baby Driver”) the failures have outweighed everything.

Start with a total write off on “King Arthur” and go from there. Then go to “The Dark Tower.”

One terrible new failure: “Nut Job 2,” they say, is the biggest loser ever in wide release (4000+) studio movie. It made just over $8 million this weekend.

Four years ago, at a USC symposium, famed and very successful directors George Lucas and Steven Spielberg warned the film industry that reliance on blockbusters– tent pole movies that failed would cause an implosion. At first no one took them seriously. But now maybe we’re seeing what they meant.

Spielberg said at the time: “That’s the big danger, and there’s eventually going to be an implosion — or a big meltdown. There’s going to be an implosion where three or four or maybe even a half-dozen mega budget movies are going to go crashing into the ground, and that’s going to change the paradigm.”

Other huge flops this year include “Life” — the sci fi movie no one saw, “Monster Trucks,” which was a monster disaster. “Ghost in the Shell” with Scarlett Johansson also came and went quickly. Plus Will Ferrell’s “The Office” was a total write off, and Sony’s “Rough Night” was an embarrassment.

I’m not counting the $100 million plus lost on “The Promise,” because it was a vanity production.

This year also brought Tom Hanks’s biggest flop in decades, “The Circle.” And of course there were the two misbegotten TV remakes– “Baywatch” and “CHiPs.”

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To: gaijin

Haha! I read your message, and took a double take, because it sounds word for word what I wrote after seeing the movie.

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say this. It’s a Friday night. I’m looking for a movie to take my girl to. Ok, I peruse RTs. Dunkirk is not getting the best reviews, and it looks like it’s over 120 minutes. All the other movies are getting terrible reviews and all seem retarded in their message.

Then I come across Baby Driver. It’s got high marks from critics and movie goers. So, I go with it.

We get the tickets in advance for an early movie, thinking we’ll discuss “the movie” at dinner.

In short, there are not a lot of choices out there for movies, and the one that came up the best turned out to be a big joke.

The movie is preposterous. It was stupid, and it got so bad, that I turned to my date and said, “I’m done.” She stayed til the end.

I wish there would be someway, when you are ready to enter the pearly gates, St. Peter asks if you have a single wish. I’d say:

“Yes, I would like back the 90 minutes I spent watching Baby Driver.”


101 posted on 08/15/2017 6:59:52 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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To: T-Bone Texan

Spike TV’s new series version of THE MIST is the single most cringe-worthy piece of PC vomit that has ever been produced.

I freaking LOVE The Mist and barely made it 20 minutes.


102 posted on 08/15/2017 7:02:12 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Moonmad27

Indeed. I have the same services and I ain’t hollerin’. Britbox is becoming my go-to alternative, though my wife loses her patience when I binge on classic Doctor Who.


103 posted on 08/15/2017 7:05:42 AM PDT by fabjr60 ("I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own.")
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To: SkyPilot
“Ghost in the Shell” with Scarlett Johansson also came and went quickly.

Why would I spend money on anything with her in it? She opposed the Dakota Access Pipeline.

104 posted on 08/15/2017 7:09:58 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: SkyPilot

Has anyone seen Gray Lady?Doing dinner and a movie with my husband tonight.


105 posted on 08/15/2017 7:10:54 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fabjr60

Maybe she can handle the “5 Doctors” Rifftrax show the next two Thursdays at a theater near you.


106 posted on 08/15/2017 7:17:06 AM PDT by PfromHoGro (Orwell was overly optimistic.)
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To: libertylover
I was planning to go see “Dunkirk” soon. Has it been homo-ed down?

no but it is a waste of time and money. not awful, just not as good as the trailers make it seem plus there is no real story to follow.

107 posted on 08/15/2017 7:25:30 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: selfdefense
I do plan to break my boycott of Hollywood temporarily to see Star Wars VIII. It is rumored that Luke Skywalker will go to the Dark Side, which is fine with me, since Mark Hamill is already there.

(Mark Hamill also did great as The Replicator, a truly wicked criminal from the Criminal Minds TV series. I won't watch Criminal Minds, seasons 1 through 3 anymore, since they have the decidedly leftoid, Islam-excusing Mandy Patinkin in them. Will also have to avoid The Princess Bride re-runs for the same reason, sadly.)

108 posted on 08/15/2017 7:26:56 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: The Toll
The one thing the public is craving more than any thing else is MORE 98lbs white women beating the crap out of every one!

Somebody like this individual would be a more likely movie heroine. She's not a actress, alas.

109 posted on 08/15/2017 7:31:48 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (April 2006 Message from Dan http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message/2006_04.htm)
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To: bravo whiskey; libertylover

Get the 1958 version with Richard Attenborough, Bernard Lee and John Mills.
Black and white but still a better movie. You can actually follow the story line.


110 posted on 08/15/2017 7:55:55 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SkyPilot
Ghost in the Shell

I didn't even know that had been released yet.

111 posted on 08/15/2017 8:04:34 AM PDT by zeugma (The Brownshirts have taken over American Universities.)
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To: SkyPilot
I remember some years ago, when Siskel & Ebert had a movie review show and were reviewing a Stephen King movie. One of them commented that it was continuing the cycle of putting in a best selling King novel, and out comes a really bad movie.

I think King's material seems to adapt better on the small screen in "mini-series" form.

112 posted on 08/15/2017 8:18:01 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: libertylover

No, Dunkirk was played straight as an historical war drama. Extremely good movie.


113 posted on 08/15/2017 8:20:17 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: CitizenUSA

“They can’t go bankrupt fast enough for me.”

True, but hollyweird can count on the Chicoms to bail them out.


114 posted on 08/15/2017 8:21:03 AM PDT by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: John O
(I did see “The Quiet Man” on TCM this week. Excellent movie!!)

One of my very favorite movies.

115 posted on 08/15/2017 8:27:35 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: PfromHoGro

Heh. If it does not feature Christopher Eccleston as the ninth Doctor, she would not be interested. I think it would be a hoot. My favs are the fourth, tenth and twelfth Doctors.


116 posted on 08/15/2017 8:28:28 AM PDT by fabjr60 ("I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered! My life is my own.")
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To: All

Good. I hope this trend continues. I gave up Hollyweird years ago and no longer support. Bunch of damn hypocritical libtard fools. Who needs them!


117 posted on 08/15/2017 8:31:15 AM PDT by speedracerx (The fate of our great nation lies in the hands of conservatives!)
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To: LibertarianLiz; henkster
A bit of The Quiet Man trivia.
POSTED ON JULY 12, 2014

John Ford’s RIO GRANDE (1950)

 
By 1950 John Ford was a legend.  He had already received four Academy Award nominations for Best Director with three wins.  Yet, he’d been unable to fulfill a professional dream he’d had for fourteen years – to make THE QUIET MAN in the country of his heart, Ireland.  It was thanks to a small movie with a negligible budget, a movie Ford had no interest in making that THE QUIET MAN came to be.
According to John Ford’s son, Patrick the director didn’t want any part of RIO GRANDE.  The film was made thanks to a compromise between Ford and Republic Studio’s President, Herbert Yates who agreed to finance THE QUIET MAN if Ford agreed to make a third cavalry movie to follow the hugely popular FORT APACHE (1948) and SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON (1949).  “Well, I’ll tell you what” Ford said, “if I can have my choice of cast in RIO GRANDE, I’ll make it for you” to which Yates replied, “Of course.  Anybody but John Wayne,” which posed a problem – that’s exactly who Ford wanted.  It turns out that Herbert Yates and John Wayne had had a falling out and weren’t on speaking terms so Ford went to Duke, “Go apologize to Yates so he can let you make RIO GRANDE, so I can use you in THE QUIET MAN.” 
 
 
Lt. Col. Kirby York and John Ford’s camera
 
Duke Wayne gave in and the apology was accepted, which set John Ford on a fast track toward Ireland reportedly working faster on RIO GRANDE than in any other of his films, completing it in thirty-two days using 665 takes on a total of 646 setups.  (Scott Eyman)
 
RIO GRANDE is based on a short story by James Warmer Bellah, “Mission with No Record” that had been published in the Saturday Evening Post.  John Ford hired James Kevin McGuinness to write the screenplay and aside from Duke Wayne used several other actors he was familiar with and that we’ve all come to love to make this rushed movie with a budget set at $1.2 million.  Maureen O’Hara was borrowed from Fox and Ford regulars, Victor McLaglen, Ben Johnson and Harry Carey, Jr. joined Claude Jarman, Jr., Chill Wills and J. Carroll Naish to make up the superb cast.
 
 
Victor McLaglen, Harry Carey Jr. and Ben Johnson
 
RIO GRANDE was filmed entirely in Moab, Utah during the brutal summer of 1950 under very difficult conditions given the heat and required heavy costumes.  Despite that, however, by most accounts this was one of Ford’s most fun films to shoot probably because he just wanted to get through it and move on.  Harry Carey, Jr. actually described the set as “happy-go-lucky,” a rarity where John Ford was concerned.  However, I don’t think Ben Johnson would have described the RIO GRANDE experience as Carey did.  Insulted by comments made by Ford during the making of this film, Johnson wouldn’t work for Ford again for thirteen years when he appeared uncredited in CHEYENNE AUTUMN (1964).
 
RIO GRANDE made a profit for Republic but was not as well received as the previous two entries in what has collectively come to be known as Ford’s “cavalry trilogy.” Although it’s considered a classic this film remains relatively unknown except to ardent Ford and classics fans.  It has through the years become one of my favorite John Ford movies, however, because it possesses many of the elements that make his films so memorable.  Those elements include the many gorgeous, brilliantly framed shots typical of Ford, the tradition and pageantry so important in so many of his movies, and the music, which plays as important a part in RIO GRANDE as it does in many other Ford films.  In fact, there may be a bit too much music in this one, although I enjoy it.  
 
Beautifully lit scene –
a tender moment between husband and wife
 
Regarding that fact, by the way, I was somewhat surprised to learn in Scott Eyman’s Print the Legend: The Life and Times of John Ford that the director wasn’t happy about having to use the Sons of the Pioneers who do the singing throughout the movie.  He felt they cheapened the picture because they didn’t look like cavalrymen and weren’t actors.  It was Herbert Yates who insisted they be in the movie because he liked the idea of singing cowboys.  I have to say I’m glad because the singers are part of one of my favorite scenes.
 
While watching RIO GRANDE again in preparation for this post I’d tweeted that one of the wonders of Ford for me is how in the midst of all the testosterone in his films you also get the kind of tender moments that could make a young girl blush.  That moment and sentiment in RIO GRANDE happens as the Sons of the Pioneers serenade Kathleen Yorke (O’Hara) with the beautiful ballad “I’ll Take You Home Again, Kathleen” during her first night at the post where she’s reunited with her estranged husband, Lt. Col. Kirby Yorke (Wayne).  
 
Kirby and Kathleen are moved when they
hear “I’ll Take You Home Again, Kathleen”
 
 
This scene never fails to make me misty as she hopes the serenade and song were Kirby’s idea, but the commander is embarrassed by the choice of song and apologizes.   Kathleen replies – holding back tears – that she wished it had been his idea.   This is a beautiful scene during which the wonderful Wayne/O’Hara chemistry is evident in this their first of five films together.  In fact, their chemistry in RIO GRANDE is possibly the best of all their pairings and I don’t say that lightly given how much I love them together in all their collaborations.  All of their scenes together in this movie are touching with the palpable sexual energy of a couple that’s deeply in love, but have a huge rift between them.
 
In his book, Company of Heroes, Harry Carey, Jr. discusses another scene in RIO GRANDE during which Kirby and Kathleen Yorke kiss passionately.  It’s surprising to learn how John Ford felt about filming love scenes given he did them so beautifully:
“The old man enjoyed directing Duke in this role and of course Maureen was with us to make it all the more beautiful.  She was so gorgeous it took your breath away to see her every morning.  I wished I was a leading man and could do a love scene with her like Duke did.  Ford put that scene off until the last day of shooting.  Duke had said during the whole last week of shooting to anyone who would listen (except Jack, of course), ‘Christ, we’re right here on the set.  We could shoot that scene easy now – where I take her in my arms and kiss her – he’s ducking it.  He hates to direct a love scene.  You watch – he’ll put it off ’til the last goddamn day!’  Duke was right.  That’s exactly what happened.”

 

 

Worth that wait or what!
 
The story in RIO GRANDE takes place during the late 1870s in an outpost in Arizona where cavalry officer, Kirby Yorke is stationed.  The threats of the Civil War have been replaced by those of Apache Indians. Yorke has had a successful military career, but is a lonely man who’d sacrificed his family for the cavalry, a decision he’s forced to face head-on when his young son, Jeff (Jarman, Jr.) enlists and ends up at his post. 
 
Jarman, Jr. and Wayne as father and son
 
The Lt. Col. is now forced to command a son who’s a stranger to him.  Complicating matters further is Jeff’s mother, Yorke’s estranged wife, Kathleen who shows up at the post soon after to try to buy Jeff out of the service.
 
RIO GRANDE is yet another John Ford masterpiece and a must-see.  Although it’s probably safe to say many disagree with that label in regards to this film including Patrick Ford who claimed RIO GRANDE lacks the depth of the other two films in the cavalry trilogy because both the director and Wayne didn’t want to make. To both this one was nothing more than “a job.”  I haven’t seen FORT APACHE in too many years to comment on it, but I find GRANDE at least as affecting a movie as SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON albeit clearly a much simpler production.  Aside from the Wayne/O’Hara pairing this movie offers the story of a son trying to earn the love and respect of a very difficult and demanding father, deep friendships and bonds of honor portrayed memorably by an outstanding cast of supporting players, great action sequences and gorgeous photography by Burt Glennon.  
 
 
My only complaint about this movie is that I care very little about the plot having to do with Apache Indians who are the cause for the action.  I think the personal stories in this work best and are what make RIO GRANDE worth watching repeatedly.  YO!
 
RIO GRANDE was released in November 1950 and that same month John Ford and Ward Bond left for Ireland along with Herbert Yates.  The two had a mission now that Yates was all set to finance THE QUIET MAN – they were set to show him the splendors of Ireland.  THE QUIET MAN had to be in Technicolor.  Thanks to RIO GRANDE for that.  And I guess, thanks to THE QUIET MAN for RIO GRANDE.
 

 

118 posted on 08/15/2017 9:30:32 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Bratch
^^^---Link to above article
119 posted on 08/15/2017 9:32:18 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Bryanw92

“Then you decide to go to the theatre anyway and a tub of popcorn costs $8.”

My theater charges $12. I kid you not. Two sodas, 1 candy, 1 popcorn: $27.


120 posted on 08/15/2017 9:33:20 AM PDT by CodeToad (AA)
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