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Hill Reporter Taylor Lorenz:"police officers at station: guy wasn’t malicious,was scared”
Twitter of Hill Reporter Taylor Lorenz ^ | Aug 12, 2017 | Taylor Lorenz

Posted on 08/13/2017 5:20:44 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Pulled Tweet By Hill Reporter:

“Anyway several police officers at the station here think the guy running people down wasn’t malicious. They said the driver was scared”

CACHE of Pulled Tweet By The Hill Reporter

Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Washington
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To: Yardstick
Listen to his tires chirp at the beginning. That’s when he punched it, and that was several seconds before the guy hit his car.

If you watch the video you're referring to a little closer, you'll notice both during and for a second or two after the tires chirp that his brake lights were lit up.

Not sure why he would hit the brakes if at this point he had already made the decision to plow into this crowd.

Another curious observation of this video is in the audio. At this same point, you already start to hear blood curdling screams begin and a slamming sound of some kind, which all happens before the first protestor with a stick or bat hits the driver side taillight area.

I'm not trying to argue the guy is innocent of anything, but not everything seems to cleanly add up to this being premeditated either.

221 posted on 08/14/2017 11:15:52 AM PDT by Hadean
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To: dragnet2

I think he was freaking out and trying to get away from a real threat.

I do not think this was a “terrorist attack”.

I have been agreeing with you from the beginning.

Not sure why this exchange has taken such a strange turn.


222 posted on 08/14/2017 11:38:16 AM PDT by Salamander (Where is evil? Often where you least expect it.)
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To: Salamander
Not sure why this exchange has taken such a strange turn.

Not a strange turn. I was attempting to ask Joe a legitimate basic question and you responded:

You need to find another brick wall to beat your head against.

I'm not sure why some people would have a difficult time with the question. I thought everyone had an opinion, regardless if they stink or not.

Ya see it's not that bad if someone's opinion turns out to be wrong. I've been wrong and even stated on this thread my opinions could be wrong. So there ya go.

223 posted on 08/14/2017 12:36:02 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Helicondelta
this video (https://streamable.com/21gc9) shows him driving in slow speed, getting hit by some guy with a baseball bat and then panicking and driving into the crowd.

Unless the still shot below has been photo-shopped, the object appears to be a flag.

Image and video hosting by TinyPic

Reports are the driver was a fan of Adolph Hitler.

So, members of one side admired a mass murderer like Hitler, while large numbers of the other no doubt admired mass murderers like Mao tse Tung. ANTIFA is a combination anarchist - communist organization. The red and black symbol is the logo for Anarcho-syndicalism.

The following is from ANTIFA’s website, New York City chapter...

About us
Antifascists and Anticapitalists!

https://nycantifa.wordpress.com/about-us/
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With the red and black anarchist signs and logos they appear to be anarco-syndicalists, a combination of communist and anarchist.

Again from their website (violence is CLEARLY promoted in the banner below)...


Antifa International

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Anarcho-syndicalism


A common Anarcho-Syndicalist flag.

In the early 20th century, anarcho-syndicalism arose as a distinct school of thought within anarchism.[78] With greater focus on the labour movement than previous forms of anarchism, syndicalism posits radical trade unions as a potential force for revolutionary social change, replacing capitalism and the state with a new society, democratically self-managed by the workers.

Anarcho-syndicalists seek to abolish the wage system and private ownership of the means of production, which they believe lead to class divisions. Important principles include workers' solidarity, direct action (such as general strikes and workplace recuperations), and workers' self-management. This is compatible with other branches of anarchism, and anarcho-syndicalists often subscribe to anarchist communist or collectivist anarchist economic systems.[79] Its advocates propose labour organization as a means to create the foundations of a non-hierarchical anarchist society within the current system and bring about social revolution.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100613155646/http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Anarchist_schools_of_thought#Anarchist_communism

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YouTube Video:
The O'Reilly Factor confronts Bill Ayers:
October 24, 2008:
(note the red communist star, and anarcho-syndicalist red and black, on his shirt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP3uvK9gTIY
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Bill Ayers: "I considered myself partly an anarchist then and I consider myself partly an anarchist now. I mean, I'm as much an anarchist as I am a Marxist which is to say I find a lot of the ideas in anarchism appealing."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443241,00.html

224 posted on 08/14/2017 1:05:16 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary--REAL Russia-US collusion! (UraniumOne Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes) See my home page)
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To: FreedomStar3028

And why did police funnel the White Nationalist protesters (who they ordered to leave) Through the violent Antifa?


225 posted on 08/14/2017 1:35:33 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

To cause violence.

This was one hundred percent orchestrated to give the media what they wanted.


226 posted on 08/14/2017 1:57:57 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Hadean

Pretty sure he was being attacked prior to ramming the crowd.


227 posted on 08/14/2017 1:58:50 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: ETL

Still haven’t seen any proof that the “white nationalists” were white supremacists or anything other than your run of the mill average right wing person like myself or you.


228 posted on 08/14/2017 2:00:09 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FourtySeven
It's a natural question to ask since antifa are violent and have attacked people in cars on previous occasions. it would fit the pattern. It also would be consistent with the report by Lorenz who said the police in the station said he was scared, not malicious. I fully admit my bias: I'd like to see a video showing antifa thugs beating his car with clubs early in the timeline so we can put the blame squarely on them. But, as you can see from my several comments on this subject, I am also open to the inconvenient possibility that what he did was malicious. Overall there's enough uncertainty here that I think it would be unwise to jump to any firm conclusions, which frankly makes me wonder about your motivations.
229 posted on 08/14/2017 2:35:01 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Hadean

Those are interesting observations and I agree that it does not cleanly add up.


230 posted on 08/14/2017 2:37:07 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: FreedomStar3028
Still haven’t seen any proof that the “white nationalists” were white supremacists or anything other than your run of the mill average right wing person like myself or you.

Conservatives do not stand with the KKK or neo-Nazis. In any case, it's looking like a real possibility that this event's organizer, Jason Kessler, was a leftist plant. Reports indicate he supported both (communist) Obama and the hard left Occupy Wall Street movement. Besides that he was an "onsite reporter" for none other than CNN! I checked with the CNN website and it is indeed him.

231 posted on 08/14/2017 3:06:07 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary--REAL Russia-US collusion! (UraniumOne Deal, Missile Defense, Nukes) See my home page)
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To: Ray76
This is the person who swung the flag at the rear of the car.


232 posted on 08/14/2017 3:21:30 PM PDT by Ray76 (Republicans are a Democrat party front group.)
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To: Ray76

Flag man is four people deep into the scattering crowd

1. knapsack man
2. yellow shirt
3. sunglasses
4. bluejean legs


233 posted on 08/14/2017 3:45:38 PM PDT by Ray76 (Republicans are a Democrat party front group.)
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To: NoLibZone

Well, like being a drunk driver, being a hateful, bigoted driver doesn’t excuse the consequences. Dead is dead.


234 posted on 08/14/2017 3:47:00 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Drain the Swamp is not party specific. Lyn' Ted is still a liar, Good riddance to him.)
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To: NoLibZone

Seems that Mr. Sessions is being hasty in his judgment.


235 posted on 08/14/2017 3:53:57 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: dragnet2

He hit that car at a pretty good speed and had done all the damage he could do. He couldnt go any further and his only options were to stay ther or back up.


236 posted on 08/14/2017 4:02:32 PM PDT by Armscor38
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To: Armscor38

Not quite.

He very easily could have struck nearly every person on that road prior to approaching the cars that were blocked by that crowd which had armed antifa types within the crowd.

In addition, the vehicle was seen braking at least once about 70’ prior to the vehicle reaching the main group.

I can tell ya, in that vehicle I could have struck that group of people who were already blocking vehicles at about 70 mph., possibly faster. And those cars and people would have been pushed/blown clear to the opposite side of that intersection.


237 posted on 08/14/2017 4:19:45 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ETL

I’m saying I haven’t seen anything to indicate that the people at the protest were anything but your average conservative.


238 posted on 08/14/2017 5:07:47 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: dragnet2

Most of the proteters were in front of and to the sides of the white car and minivan which were moving slowly and were not being attacked by the protesters. Why was Fields car the only vehicle attacked that day? What singled him out?


239 posted on 08/14/2017 5:31:25 PM PDT by Armscor38
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To: Armscor38

It wasn’t the only vehicle or individual attacked. There are probably 10k hours of video taken by thousands...Other vehicles and other people were pelted and assaulted all day.

Have you been on vacation?


240 posted on 08/14/2017 5:39:40 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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