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To: Buckeye McFrog

How the hell is single payer “conservative?”

The author of this piece must be kidding himself.

Rationing, death panels, and everyone under the thumb of the fascist government.

Thumb up, you live, thumb down, you die.

Just like a Roman emperor.

Two words for the author of this piece (besides the obvious FU).....those words: Charlie Gard.


3 posted on 07/28/2017 6:31:56 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

That was my point. The author’s whole argument
is that we need to change what “conservative” means
to something it has never meant.


8 posted on 07/28/2017 6:33:48 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; All
Thumb up, you live, thumb down, you die.

Not to pick nits, but contrary to all the movies made demonstrating this, actually the 'thumbs up' signal meant curtains for the poor devil it was directed to, while the opposite signal meant that he may live to be tortured again.
14 posted on 07/28/2017 6:37:49 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Washington D.C. has become the enemy of free people everywhere!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Outcomes of “single payer” adoption -

1. All innovation in advancements in treatment of conditions both common and uncommon comes to a screeching halt.

2. “Death panels” which have final authority to choose to suspend or reduce care to palliative treatment only, when the continued life of the patient must show some “economic benefit” measured in “Quality of Life in Remaining Years”, a measurement that may be highly subjective.

3. Delays in the treatment of conditions, leading to deterioration of the condition over time, that change what would have been an easily treated ailment into a life-threatening crisis or even inducing early death.

4. Rules which make it a punishable offense to seek treatment from another unauthorized source, and for which any future participation in any aspect of the single-player scheme is expressly forbidden.

And these are just the more egregious of the bad outcomes of adoption of this system. Longer range, the quality of the medical professionals is sure to decline, as fewer and fewer applicants see much of a future in becoming a medical professional, as the returns on the time invested diminish to the vanishing point, in terms of a sense of dedication, and emotional reward for efforts expended, let alone the economic aspects of a much reduced level of remuneration.


35 posted on 07/28/2017 6:56:33 AM PDT by alloysteel (The difference between Illinois and Venezuela, is that toilet tissue is still available in Illinois.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

He said it saves money and lives.. after that, I stopped reading because Charlie Gard wasn’t the exception, he was the rule.


38 posted on 07/28/2017 7:00:34 AM PDT by momincombatboots (White Stetsons up.. let's save our country!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Baby Charlie Gard is like the poster child of single payer health insurance. Maybe this really is what our government wants for us. Somehow the cult movis “Logans Run” and “Soylent Green” come to mind. Look at the VA. My good friend died prematurely because they delayed his care. Good way to get rid of us who remember how it used to be when the word freedom and liberty meant something. Just look at the Netherlands and their death squads mobile units.


44 posted on 07/28/2017 7:05:32 AM PDT by ghostkatz (catslivesmatter....all 9 of them)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

You said it best. Nicely done.


54 posted on 07/28/2017 7:25:35 AM PDT by onona (Stop stonewalling Judicial Watch and release the documents)
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