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HBO's Slavery Drama 'Confederate' Faces Minefield of "Fundamentally Problematic" Issues
hollywoodreporter.com ^ | 7/27/2017 | Rebecca Sun

Posted on 07/27/2017 8:59:02 AM PDT by rktman

Confederate, as outlined in HBO's initial release, “chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution."

But constructing an alt-timeline centered around the continuation of slavery for another 150 years requires a certain significant assumption, says writer Steven Barnes, whose 2002 novel Lion’s Blood imagines an alternate history in which Africa is the dominant colonizing civilization and slaves are of European descent.

(Excerpt) Read more at hollywoodreporter.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: confederate; dixie; hollywood; moviereview; whiners
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To: ClearCase_guy

Bingo


21 posted on 07/27/2017 9:34:37 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: rktman

“giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution.””

So the CSA is Islamic?


22 posted on 07/27/2017 9:40:04 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Muslims had been pulling about a thousand slaves a month out of Africa for about a thousand years. Males would be castrated. Females were sex slaves. Many marched across the Sahara where 90% slave losses ocurred. They left them as they dropped.
African slaves were sold to China from the east coast of Africa.


23 posted on 07/27/2017 9:40:21 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: Axenolith

As long as they avoid talking about the quality of tobacco every 10 minutes. Lol!


24 posted on 07/27/2017 9:41:34 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is also Mexican and Chinese slavery, mostly of young women.


25 posted on 07/27/2017 9:42:06 AM PDT by Yaelle (We have a Crisis of Information in this country. Our enemies hold the megaphone.)
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To: rktman

It is better to be ignorant of history than to intentionally fill your head with dillusions of history.

Why knowingly pollute your perceived knowledge of true history with fictional, twisted garbage?

Any value to it?


26 posted on 07/27/2017 9:44:42 AM PDT by TheNext (RETROACTIVE REFUND & REPEAL of ACA.)
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To: rktman

“The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution.”

More Revisionist History!

As anyone who actually studies American History know, the Civil War had nothing at all to do with Slavery!

In fact, the political and military leaders or the CSA never even considered Slavery or in almost all cases no idea that Slavery even existed.

As one CSA political leaderr said “Slavery? What is this Slavery you speak of? We have no idea what you are talking about!”

It was all about States’ Rights! The right to own property had noting at all do do with owning other human beings, but was about the Yankees not wanting th people in the South to own Alexander Stephens bobble head dolls and very coveted Nathan Bedford Forrest Pokémon Trading Card!


27 posted on 07/27/2017 9:45:00 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: Axenolith
--wondered that from when I first heard of this "series"-

--I sped-read through the Turtledove stuff up to when he had Nazi-like extermination going on and decided not to waste any more time on it--

28 posted on 07/27/2017 9:53:38 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: PapaBear3625
Now, if the Game of Thrones writers wanted to deal with REAL history, they could have a series about African Muslim slave raiders and their white slaves

What an asinine statement! Whites were never slaves!

/s
29 posted on 07/27/2017 10:02:55 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Helping Make American Great Again, by ignoring Liberals!)
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To: ExTxMarine

Alternately, they could have a series about the Roman Empire, which had lots of slaves, with both the slaves and slave owners all being white.


30 posted on 07/27/2017 10:05:59 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: rktman

If the North and South became two separate nations, with slavery presumably abolished in the North, what would stop most of the southern slaves from escaping to the neighboring free nation, especially if the North was angry enough over secession not to return any escaped slaves and to hang anyone caught in the North trying to kidnap people back to the south.


31 posted on 07/27/2017 10:19:04 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: PapaBear3625

I recall Mary Shelly mentioning the problem in her novel, Frankenstein.


32 posted on 07/27/2017 10:20:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: PapaBear3625

That show would NEVER work!

They need the blacks to be in command and power, to show them that they (the African Americans) CAN and WILL overcome all the racism that is still rampant and streaming out of all of the Government offices in systematic order which is caused by and repeated by ALL the white people in America, still today!

DUH!


33 posted on 07/27/2017 10:27:47 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Helping Make American Great Again, by ignoring Liberals!)
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To: rktman
From an economic point of view, had the south won the civil war, slavery would have ended anyway. The point of slavery was economic. Slavery was the most cost effective way, at the time, of getting agricultural goods from the fields to the market. With the advent of farming machinery just around the corner there would soon be a cheaper way of harvesting than slavery and so, no economic reason to keep slaves.

In addition, who would the Confederate States trade with? The North would certainly not be a primary trading partner and most European nations of the time where were very active in their anti-slavery efforts. As such, the Confederate States would have had to put in place at least a time-line to end slavery if they wanted European trading partners.

So, at least in my opinion, the whole “What if slavery continued to exist” idea is just such hogwash.

34 posted on 07/27/2017 10:39:34 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: lightman
there is also modern day economic slavery, wherein the producers of society must subsidize the laziness and obstinance of the ghetto class.

Because hey, the Obamaphone ain't gonna pay for itself!

PS: Dear ghetto, I want my trillion dollars back. Signed, America.

35 posted on 07/28/2017 8:31:06 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Trump's election does not release you from your prepping responsibilites!)
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To: rktman

HBO, where Liberal Wet Dreams become Entertainment that people voluntarily pay to watch.


36 posted on 07/28/2017 8:37:37 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: rktman

Knowing who wants to produce this farce, the primary story line will explore all the different possible forms of master - slave sex.


37 posted on 07/28/2017 8:37:39 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rktman

What makes it fundamentally problematic is “What if the South won the Civil War” is the second most used alternate history story line and has gotten painfully boring because of it.


38 posted on 07/28/2017 8:39:09 AM PDT by discostu (Things are in their place, The heavens are secure, The whole thing explodes in my face)
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To: rktman

They closed and deleted the Discussion Thread on the Site.

Wonder why. LOL


39 posted on 07/28/2017 8:39:55 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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