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The author states that the evidence shows that mankind wants to have meaning and purpose in their lives. If Americans shun Christianity, then they will search for meaning and purpose in other ways, such as weird religious rituals (witchcraft, reincarnation, auras). They also will lose the civil morality that Christianity taught and so our society will become more uncivil and tribal. We are now seeing this happen. So many westerners take for granted, or are completely unaware of, the underlying philosophical assumptions that have served as the basis for western civilization. Those assumptions are mainly from the Bible and when you remove the Biblical foundation, the rest of society is eventually going to suffer. But since that usually takes a while, the secularists don't see it and so they proceed ahead unaware of the destruction that they have unleashed.
1 posted on 07/25/2017 6:15:21 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: DeweyCA

Art Bell call your office.


2 posted on 07/25/2017 6:19:03 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: DeweyCA

...taugbt in schools...
We Are Finished!


3 posted on 07/25/2017 6:21:25 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: DeweyCA

Jung said if you have no belief in God then you constilate the God complex within, you become the highest power for morals. So morals become situational.


4 posted on 07/25/2017 6:27:34 PM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wikikileaks via murdered ex-UK Amb, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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To: DeweyCA

If you don’t believe in something, you’ll believe in anything.


5 posted on 07/25/2017 6:28:14 PM PDT by henkster (Ask your favorite liberal to take the "Snowflake Challenge.")
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Dewey, you probably didn't catch this because you do not hold grudges like I do (I keep them forever), but from the article:

"Ross Douthat has written powerfully about the political consequences of post-Christian conservatism. It turns out that when men and women shed their faith, they don’t necessarily get more liberal, but they do get more tribal and vicious."

Tribal and vicious is a reference to something the NeverTrumpers were harping on during the election: that Trump and his supporters are "nativists."

French is the chinless weirdo who nearly ran for President to vainly attempt to help Hillary win the election.

This article is a thinly veiled attempt to tell people that Trump supporters are "post-Christian" because they support deportation.

Nevertheless, I suppose there may or may not be some correct observations in his overall message, except for this tribal nonsense. If anything, the less religious people become, the more liberal, and the more globalistic.

6 posted on 07/25/2017 6:34:29 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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..I’d urge you to read a fascinating article in this Sunday’s New York Times

NY Slimes? Pass. More than likely 99 and 44/100ths percent Bullshit.
Better to put the pages in the outhouse where they can be put to a use they qualify for.


7 posted on 07/25/2017 6:43:13 PM PDT by GoldenPup
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Here’s the wikipedia introduction to Victor Frankl’s book on the subject:

Man’s Search for Meaning is a 1946 book by Viktor Frankl chronicling his experiences as an Auschwitz concentration camp inmate during World War II, and describing his psychotherapeutic method, which involved identifying a purpose in life to feel positively about, and then immersively imagining that outcome. According to Frankl, the way a prisoner imagined the future affected his longevity. The book intends to answer the question “How was everyday life in a concentration camp reflected in the mind of the average prisoner?” Part One constitutes Frankl’s analysis of his experiences in the concentration camps, while Part Two introduces his ideas of meaning and his theory called logotherapy.

According to a survey conducted by the Book-of-the-Month Club and the Library of Congress, Man’s Search For Meaning belongs to a list of “the ten most influential books in the United States.”[1] At the time of the author’s death in 1997, the book had sold over 10 million copies and had been translated into 24 languages.[2][3]

This is a fantastic book. It should be required reading in our schools. That wikipedia introduction isn’t very good and doesn’t do the book justice, but that was what was available.

The author states it as mankind “wants” to have meaning and purpose in life. Frankl says it is more than that. Humans NEED purpose.

The modern welfare state completely fails humanity. By just giving out free stuff, the government robs people of their purpose, steals all meaning from the lives, and condemns people to a sorry, unhappy existence. Without struggle and a little bit of hardship people are guaranteed to be unhappy. This is alluded to in the book of Genesis when Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden. They were now required to work the land to provide for themselves. This is how it must be.


8 posted on 07/25/2017 6:43:41 PM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: DeweyCA

A Post-Christian America will happen 1 nanosecond after the Rapture!


9 posted on 07/25/2017 6:44:05 PM PDT by TRY ONE (I never got the memo changing the name of Global Warming to Klimate Change)
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The irony with this one is thick, since if one asked an urban elitist, “Where are you most likely to find someone who is gullible, intolerant, and superstitious,” they would almost certainly guess a red state or “unsophisticated” rural area.

Guess the joke’s on them.


11 posted on 07/25/2017 6:47:28 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: DeweyCA

Chesterton called this one a long time ago. Rodney Stark of Baylor also showed this to be the case about (IIRC) a decade ago, when a study his students carried out showed that lack of religious belief and belief in weird stuff were positively correlated.

Yep, history goes on, the problems mankind faces may change, but the answer is still Jesus.


14 posted on 07/25/2017 7:03:58 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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Btw, here is the URl to the psychology professor's New York Times article that French mentions that tells about "America’s less religious citizens are far more likely to believe in things such as ghosts and UFOs than people who attend church."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/21/opinion/sunday/dont-believe-in-god-maybe-youll-try-ufos.html?referer=https://t.co/RWiVwrOW7G?amp=1

In the NYT article, the psychology professor links to studies that show that "People who do not frequently attend church are twice as likely to believe in ghosts as those who are regular churchgoers. The less religious people are, the more likely they are to endorse empirically unsupported ideas about U.F.O.s, intelligent aliens monitoring the lives of humans and related conspiracies about a government cover-up of these phenomena."
15 posted on 07/25/2017 7:07:52 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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Nietzsche said that when a man has a "why" to live for he can endure almost any "how." Victor Frankl wrote after his WWII experience in Nazi prison camp, a book called "Man's Search for Meaning" and founded a school of psychoanalysis on the principle. That these latter day guys think they have discovered something new only reveals how shallow present day "scholarship" has become.
17 posted on 07/25/2017 7:25:41 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DeweyCA

Davis French has been so unrelentingly foul and nasty re: Trump that he is in no position to speak on the morality of any other Americans.


20 posted on 07/26/2017 12:35:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DeweyCA

Bump for later read


21 posted on 07/26/2017 1:04:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: DeweyCA; SkyPilot; Roman_War_Criminal; Lera

Manchurian Candidate Barack Hussein Obama did one incredible impression of the Antichrist. Brought the Devil’s own social agendas right into American lives on a near-daily basis, pushing weirdo agendas while bankrupting the country.

The blindness to his scams had to be on some sort of supernatural level. Since Barack routinely omitted God and often acted against the Apple of the God of Israel’s Eye, Israel, I say he was empowered by the prince of this world, a.k.a. the god (small ‘g’) of this world.

Go back and watch the Democrats boo the God of Israel and Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. Not to mention other basic Democrat agendas......


22 posted on 07/26/2017 2:09:00 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 21:36 KJV Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all...)
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Why didn’t you post this on the Religion forum?

Your posting and the comments I’ve read do NOT = News!


24 posted on 07/26/2017 3:01:18 AM PDT by octex
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