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Average Americans Can No Longer Afford Average New Cars
Gas 2 ^ | 17 July 2017 | Steve Hanley

Posted on 07/21/2017 9:06:34 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: bk1000

The only downside for me was that the prior owner had no idea what he was doing with a Jeep and was using it apparently for road use only. At 14k miles the stock MTA tires should have been rotated 3-4 times and weren’t so the rear tires had substantially more wear than the fronts.


61 posted on 07/21/2017 9:56:49 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I have not purchased a used car in decades. I am fortunate enough to be able to afford a new car, but that didn’t just happen because I have a good paycheck. My wife and I live within our means, we have disposed of as much debt as it is possible to do, and we try to provide for our future.

I get a new car every four years, when I get up to around 100K miles on a vehicle, I sell the car cheap to someone who needs a good vehicle, or give it to people. (Interestingly, the people I ended up giving the car to, in both cases, completely destroyed it through neglect, doing is so quickly it was disconcerting. There is a lesson there...)

Up until the age of 30, I had used cars, and had to get them repaired, worry about them breaking down, etc. When I began to make enough, I took loans and paid them off. As I got older, I paid cash for a new car. I take care of my vehicles. I don’t baby them, but I make sure anything gets fixed, and do my best to keep them clean and intact.

I am fortunate. Many people cannot handle car purchases this way.

But I did live through the Seventies, and anyone who did knows the state of cars on the highways throughout this country was appalling...even new cars rusted to pieces and turned to mechanical junk in alarmingly short time intervals. And I was always working on cars. I grew to detest it, and hated driving unreliable vehicles.

When my livelihood depended on my being able to drive to work, and I had to spend a rainy weekend pulling an engine out of a car mired in the mud underneath a maple tree with a branch to anchor a hoist, it sucked any enjoyment I might have gotten out of doing it with my own hands and getting it done right.

I don’t buy a car as an investment, for the resale value, or anything even approaching that. I buy a car that will be reliable, and allow me to drive in comfort and safety. I am utilitarian about this. I don’t even give a second thought to “resale value”...I think that is a fools errand. For me, it is a tool, if I can enjoy driving it, even better.

I think average people can afford average new cars. But they might not be able to afford a family vacation in the Caribbean, the newest large screen television, the 128 GB iPhone, or the newest computer. And a lot of people want all those things AND a new Lexus. They might be able to do it if they purchased a new low end KIA or something like that with a minimum or no frills.


62 posted on 07/21/2017 9:57:05 AM PDT by rlmorel (Donald Trump: Making Liberal Heads Explode 140 Characters At A Time.)
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To: taxcontrol

In the 1920s higher end cars were shipped as chassis with engine and drive trains and then custom bodies and interiors were added by coach builders like Fisher, LeBaron, Ghia, and Park Ward.


63 posted on 07/21/2017 9:57:49 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Denominate those car prices in ounces of gold or silver.


64 posted on 07/21/2017 9:58:11 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: LostInBayport

We do that, too. Let somebody else take that depreciation hit driving a new car off the lot.

I just bought (well, in January) a two year old V8 Expedition with 26k on the clock. Saved about 40% compared to new. We bought the extended warranty and it’s a good thing we did...the sunroof just broke and it’s a $3,000 repair! That’s nearly 10% of what we paid for the vehicle. That alone is more than the warranty cost, so we are money in the bank.

Disappointed that a sunroof broke, though. That’s never happened before.


65 posted on 07/21/2017 9:58:16 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Lorianne

Fyou liking your doctor and Fyou keeping your doctor.

The author is a hypocritical lib.

Libs don’t like private car ownership anyway. You are supposed to submit to mass transit and skyrise living.


66 posted on 07/21/2017 9:58:37 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared..)
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To: Lorianne

I can afford a new car, but choose not to.


67 posted on 07/21/2017 9:59:57 AM PDT by subterfuge (Build the damn wall...)
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To: Joe 6-pack
Yeah, I got about a 25-30% discount just by buying pre-owned. Moreover, I was able to trade in an older (2004) Jeep, and well kept Jeeps, even higher mileage ones, tend to hold solid resale value.

I have a 2005 Scion xB with 114k on it and bought a '91 Cherokee for $500 with 191k on it. Runs like a charm.
68 posted on 07/21/2017 10:00:02 AM PDT by RW_Whacko (RW_WHACKO)
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To: Gene Eric

Wasn’t Emperor Obama supposed to buy a Chevy Volt when he left office?


69 posted on 07/21/2017 10:00:40 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Bill Clinton and Al Gore took illegal campaign contributions from the Chi-Coms and 'nobody' cared..)
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To: Roccus

Simpler answer...government tried to “fix” everything and instead totally effed up everything as is their wont.


70 posted on 07/21/2017 10:01:14 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: alternatives?
Remote TVs, side air bags, GPS, power windows, lower weight requirements all increase costs.

Yeah, maybe the punk that wrote this drivel would like a few more government mandates rolled in.

71 posted on 07/21/2017 10:02:19 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: raybbr

$500 is cheaper than the property tax I owe on the 3 year old Mini Van that I bought a couple of months ago.


72 posted on 07/21/2017 10:02:36 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: magna carta

My wife and I each have cars that are over fifteen years old, and are still in perfect order. They are a pleasure to drive, dependable, and cost less than 500 a year to maintain. The trick is to look around and see what old vehicle model is still on the road in great numbers. Buy a good one, use synthetic oil, and be alert to even the smallest sign of trouble and have it looked at right away.


73 posted on 07/21/2017 10:03:03 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: Lorianne
the #FakePresident has his way

I stopped reading after that little insult to our POTUS.

Ya know, sometimes I think that young people believe they should get all the perks that older people have. When hubby and I first married, and especially after we had kids, we were both driving Ford Escorts. Our cars are now larger, and more comfortable, and --- more expensive. We have more disposable income after both our children left and started their own lives.

Everyone wants a champagne life IMMEDIATELY.

74 posted on 07/21/2017 10:03:11 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: matt04
How much do various government regulations drive up the cost of a new car?

Considerable. So many things are mandated now. The electronics bill and assembly is staggering on a new vehicle. Do you really need a computer to tell you about your tire pressure? Well, you don't have a choice anymore.

75 posted on 07/21/2017 10:04:25 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I bought a house on a one-way street that's also a dead end and now I can't leave.)
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To: alternatives?

The basic Civic hatch is very nice, turbocharged, 40 MPG, and <$20K.


76 posted on 07/21/2017 10:04:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The Washington Post is Jeff Bezos' Fake News unregulated SuperPAC.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Can’t afford a car? Ride public transportation with the ferals. Problem solved.


77 posted on 07/21/2017 10:06:35 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation camp?)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Capitalism is freedom in business

If these companies make it unaffordable like they have in auto, homes, health, university, and everything else then people are going to say, “let’s give socialism a try” because what do they have to lose? I think companies are going to have to be careful that they don’t out price themselves for most Americans. Even going to the grocery store is incredibly expensive. Something has to give and if it’s not capitalism then something will come in to replace it and we may not like it. If everything is from and our taxes are 50 percent or we have 25 percent taxes but can’t afford anything....what are people going to pick???? Wake up because you are sleeping.


78 posted on 07/21/2017 10:09:30 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: rlmorel

I set two big goals in life: 1) getting the kids through college and 2) saving enough to retire. We achieved both through careful finance planning, frugality, and a commitment to saving. If you don’t fall prey to keeping up with the Joneses next door, it is doable. For us, buying low mileage CPO used cars has been a key component to our strategy.


79 posted on 07/21/2017 10:10:52 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Lorianne

Remember when car odometers only went to 99,999.9 miles? Remember how rare it was for a car to ‘turn over’ 100,000 miles?


80 posted on 07/21/2017 10:12:21 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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