Posted on 07/20/2017 11:21:30 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
Ah, no. I believe Mr. Castile had a gun in his lap (or in his possession) and didn’t follow instructions.
I don’t think this is the right lawyer since the two cases are entirely different.
Bad move. Very bad move.
No, Castile was follwing the officer’s instructions to show his ID.
“Noor had his gun on his lap, the station said.”
Why would a cp have his gun on his lap?
“...was shot five times while cooperating with an officer’s instructions.”
Have you heard the recording from the police car?
If so, then you KNOW that the above statement is wildly inaccurate.
If you haven’t heard the recording you need to - quickly, in order to remedy your ignorance.
“Officer Matthew Harrity, told investigators he was driving in the alley with all of the vehicle’s lights off when he was startled by a loud noise, which authorities did not describe.”
Seems as if the cop panicked.
It reminds me of the time in LA when there was a crazy cop killer on the loose and a bunch of police got so scared they thought women delivering the paper in a truck were the guy and they opened up fire on the truck.
It was pure fear and panic.
But, we won’t know until there is an investigation.
It was not Castile’s fault that the nervous, poorly-trained cop gave him two conflicting instructions.
They would be better served by hiring an old courthouse rat-in-the-barn because rabble-rousing is not and cannot be part of their case.
In both cases the police officer used deadly force in a situation that did not call for it. In both cases a person is dead who should not be dead, killed by a police officer who probably should never have been a police officer. In the Castile case the police officer got of by claiming he feared for his life. I expect the police officer in the Diamond case will use the same defense with the same results.
What rabble are they supposed to be rousing? White middle-aged yuppies?
Castille didn’t help himself by carrying while being too stoned to understand simple commands...
From the dash cam video:
“Sir I do have to tell you I do have a firearm on me”
“Don’t reach for it [then?]”
“don’t pull it out!”
“don’t pull it out!!!!”
Bang
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ac7Zblqyk
How would a “reasonable person” have responded to the above directions given by the cop? By the 2nd ‘Don’t’, he should have stopped moving - but he didn’t. Too stoned to think.
The only thing I can remotely think of a reason is that the call came in as a possible rape in progress. Details were not great, and rape can be have a weapon component as it is a forcible act.
I don’t know, been doing the job for twenty years, and the only time I have drawn my weapon in my car is when somebody was walking up to me suddenly from a traffic stop. Even then, I was exiting at the same time and putting said weapon behind my leg or door, ready but not visible.
I simply cannot see how this shooting can be excused or otherwise justified.
Murder, no. Negligent homicide, most definitely.
I once was in a very similar situation to that of Castile. The police mistakenly suspected me of just having broke into a house. When the cop wanted an ID, I like Castile, was trying to cooperate when the cop started to yell at me not to reach for my back pocket, but the innocent, non-combative mind has a hard time switching immediately from the fulfillment of one instruction to another and I completed pulling out my wallet. Thankfully in my case, the officers were well-trained and had a much more stoic demeanor than the officers who shot Castile and Damond or I would not be here either.
Have you seen a drug screen on the victim in this shooting? What if there is pot in her system; will you think the officer probably acted correctly?
From the dash cam video:
“Sir I do have to tell you I do have a firearm on me”
“Don’t reach for it [then?]”
“don’t pull it out!”
“don’t pull it out!!!!”
You forgot that in between the two "Don't pull it out" both Castile and his girl friend told the officer that he wasn't pulling the gun out or going for it in any manner. Yet the officer shot him anyway.
Bang
More like "Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
How would a “reasonable person” have responded to the above directions given by the cop? By the 2nd ‘Don’t’, he should have stopped moving - but he didn’t. Too stoned to think.
I like to think I'm a reasonable person, and if I assure someone twice that I'm not doing what they tell me not to do then I'm going to assume that they are a reasonable person as well and believed me. But then again I don't run into panicky cops very often.
You should watch the Castile dashcam video. The officer appeared (to me anyway) to panic and start blasting. He was telling Castile to get his ID but Castile told him he had a gun and the officer was giving him contradictory orders as to whether he should get it out of his pocket or not. It may not have been murder, but it did not need to happen.
Dollars to donuts, the local authorities are doing ABSOLUTE ZERO investigation and exploration of the possibility of an ISLAMIC JIHAD angle to this murder. Hopefully the attorney hire by the Australian victim’s family will have the good sense to force this investigative path to be explored. Since the attempt to force the authorities to do such investigative steps will almost certainly fail (due the crippling effects of political correctness on the local governmental authorities) the victim’s attorneys should initiate said investigation and discovery on their own initiative. To get the necessary discovery approved/mandated, the attorneys will likely need to QUICKLY initiate a wrongful death lawsuit against both the Islamic cop and the local government and its officials.
It’s sad to see some FReepers themselves so crippled by political correctness that they automatically dismiss even the POSSIBILITY of this being an act of ISLAMIC JIHAD.
Wrong Casttile was not asked for his ID. look up and listen to the dash camera recordings.
Yes he was: Link
No the officer was not telling castile to get his ID.
If you haven’t go back replay it over and over stop action it.
Watch and listen very closely to what was said and times.
You are wrong when saying he asked him for his ID.
Castile might of thought in is drug altered mind that officer was giving him contradictory orders but they are very clear.
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