Posted on 07/19/2017 5:38:01 PM PDT by ItsOnlyDaryl
Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Wednesday ordered the expansion of the governments ability to seize suspects' property a move that puts him at odds with members of his own party who have slammed the practice for years as ripe for abuse and a violation of civil rights.
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NO.
Yes there are two sides, but one side has been proven over the years to be extremely unsavory, and worthy of discontinuance. This isn’t something Sessions should be pushing.
Well, when I think Clinton Foundation, seems like not a bad thing to grab all that money while the investigation goes on.
Let’s see;
1. investigating Hillary, NO.
2. investigating Lynch, NO
3. investigating Comey, NO
4. Solendra, no
I got some flak last week for saying it is time to reconsider our support for Sessions and this serves to reinforce the validity of that position. There have been too many abuses of this policy.
I approve of civil asset forfeiture, but only when there is a felony conviction based on proof beyond a reasonable doubt. In that case, if the preponderance of evidence shows a link between the felony conduct and the asset, I’m okay with forfeiture. Otherwise, no.
-—a move that puts him at odds with members of his own party who have slammed the practice for years as ripe for abuse and a violation of civil rights.-—
And it’s at odds with yours truly as well.
Has the AG abandoned pursuing some of the bigger fish over there in Swampland?
[ Yes there are two sides, but one side has been proven over the years to be extremely unsavory, and worthy of discontinuance. This isnt something Sessions should be pushing. ]
Many cases have proven over the last few decades that the amount of power this gives law enforcement turns too many of them into “Legalized Highway Bandits”.
It is a shortcut around due process and as such has been abused too damned much. Stories of citizens being pulled over for a minor traffic offense having thousands of dollars in cash STOLEN from them because they were practicing their right to freely associate their money...
Property being seized and after an innocent verdict the property just going “POOF” like it wasn’t even there.
It is a horrible law that encourages “Boss Hoggery” at the local level and cartel behavior at a federal level.
It is just as bad as when the IRS seizes property without a trial or charge.
Not only NO, but Hell NO!
What is wrong with Sessions?
This was easy low hanging fruit to win for the conservative base.
Is he nuts?
There is a lot of stuff the the Government does now that is UN-Constitutional. Social Security, Food Stamps, mandating you buy stuff, etc. This is just one of those things. Indications are that AG Sessions is going to go after the assets of actual criminals, instead of confiscating Sub Shop owner’s income because they happen to make just under $10K a week. He is going after human-traffickers in a big way, and this could help confiscate their assets and really shut things down.
[ I approve of civil asset forfeiture, but only when there is a felony conviction based on proof beyond a reasonable doubt. In that case, if the preponderance of evidence shows a link between the felony conduct and the asset, Im okay with forfeiture. Otherwise, no. ]
I agree, there should be PENDING FELONY DRUG CHARGES AND A SEARCH WARRANT AND AN ORDER BY A JUDGE TO SEIZE ASSETS BEFORE SUCH THINGS ARE DONE.
and then the items should be impounded pending outcome of a trial and returned if there is a not-guilty verdict.
This crap about seizing property on a whim in the field is just abusive crap.
A citizen’s assets should never be seized by government until they have been proven guilty of a crime in a court of law by a jury of their peers! Anything else is government tyranny. And yes, I don’t care if it’s “for the children” or necessary to stop “drug cartels”.
Local piggy will abuse it. Like they always have.
In theory, that could remove some of the incentive for local police departments to seize things from people.
Sounds good, but the main problem is abuse.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all that...
Sessions needs to resign right now, especially after brutal Trump comments tonight.
“Eh, I gotta say I see both sides of this one.”
Really? Go ahead and explain yourself.
Sessions has clearly sided with the DC criminals. The dope won’t even indict the fascist Koskinen at the IRS for his obvious criminal activity.
Mr. Trump, fire this mangy dog Sessions.
nope.
warrantless seizure the way its being abused is gross iniquity.
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