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Two more GOP senators defect on healthcare bill [Repeal Dead]
TheHill.com ^ | 07/17/17 | Jordain Carney

Posted on 07/17/2017 5:50:29 PM PDT by Rockitz

GOP Sens. Jerry Moran (Kansas) and Mike Lee (Utah) announced on Monday night they will not support taking up a bill repealing and replacing ObamaCare, effectively blocking the legislation.

"This closed-door process has yielded the [bill], which fails to repeal the Affordable Care Act or address healthcare’s rising costs. For the same reasons I could not support the previous version of this bill, I cannot support this one," Moran said in a statement.

Lee added on Twitter that "my colleague @JerryMoran and I will not support the MTP to this version of BCRA."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 115th; aca; ahca; mitchcare; obamacare; obamacare2; repeal; repealandreplace
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To: ground_fog
THe gope would rather lose control of congress than repeal Ocare

They would rather lose control of congress than govern. Just give them their cut of the deals going through, let them put up a token opposition now and again as election time approaches and leave them to their country-club.

101 posted on 07/17/2017 7:16:37 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Rockitz

Right now I think they’ll cobble something together next week.
Won’t be pretty.

If not, Trump should announce the end of the illegal CSR subsidy. That’ll get action!


102 posted on 07/17/2017 7:18:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: oincobx

Donald Trump never had a plan. During the campaign he came up with a seven-point “plan” that had some good specific items but was deliberately vague when it came to the mechanics of implementing legislation that would actually address rising health care costs. I don’t blame him for this. Obamacare is a Federal statute, which means Congress has to take the lead in fixing it.


103 posted on 07/17/2017 7:20:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: taildragger

Rubio won’t be eligible in 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032 or ever.


104 posted on 07/17/2017 7:20:25 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Jus soli + Jus sanguinis = NBC)
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To: AndyJackson

Today was the first time I heard DJT say words to the effect that we may have to repeal now and then replace later (...with a plan that is better, blah, blah, blah).

I was somewhat encouraged. Repeal is constitutional. Let them go ahead and do that. Afterwards, I don’t think they will ever replace because no one agrees on the degree of unconstitutionality they will endorse.


105 posted on 07/17/2017 7:20:29 PM PDT by Kalamata
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To: oincobx
He has never actually introduced his plan

Trump doesn't need to introduce a plan, and besides you know that is not his style. He is a master negotiator and salesman. Why would he show his hands up front?

He has been President for only 6 months. The Republicans have held the House or all of Congress for 6.5 years now.

It was THEY who said they were going to repeal Obamacare, not Trump.

It was McCONNELL who said "root and branch," not Trump.

These Republicans PROMISED to repeal Obamacare. They didn't promise an amendment to Obamacare so the NY Times won't say mean things about them and so left-wing celebrities won't mock them.

So either get up off your butts and repeal Obamacare, or let it crash and burn and everyone - including Washington and Hollywood - suffers then. Force everyone to take Obamacare. Because we cannot have single-payer and we even cannot go back to what healthcare used to be pre-Obamacare. The entire system needs to be overhauled and returned back to market forces and the states.

106 posted on 07/17/2017 7:21:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: Rockitz

“How ‘bout a straight repeal?”

This is exactly what needs to happen.


107 posted on 07/17/2017 7:21:25 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Rockitz

Good news! Hang that albatross (ObamaCare) around the neck of it’s namesake and let him OWN it.
Now, if we can convince Congress that they need to keep their grubby fingers out of healthcare completely we’d be a whole lot better off.
And I’m glad McConnell got his ass handed to him. Again.


108 posted on 07/17/2017 7:23:03 PM PDT by La.daddyrabbit (I had a pretty funny tagline until they made me remove it.)
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To: VermithraxPejorative

The trouble with third party is that both lose. The old divide and conquer. It’s just not practical.


109 posted on 07/17/2017 7:25:49 PM PDT by CMSMC
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To: dynachrome

Well here’s the weird thing to me.

Ocare would have gone belly up years ago if it hadn’t been for the Calvinball of EO’s. And even Donald Trump knows that.

So part of the devil is in the patching.

I think Donald is letting the Congress fumble and stumble in the spotlight in order to get the people to care more. He COULD do something like what Mitt Romney proposed: issue a 50 state waiver EO and it’s kaput. But then that would save Congress too easily.


110 posted on 07/17/2017 7:29:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: lodi90
Lead who? The beltway GOP has made it abundantly clear they won’t be supporting the POTUS of their own party. We are in uncharted territory in modern American history here. Never has a sitting POTUS been so abandoned by his own party immediately after he was elected.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. I still think he made a strategic error on health care. He has more fans than the dumb-a$$ congress people, and both the house and senate bills were garbage, and still can't get through the maze. There is no public push for either bill because each one has opposition from all sides. There is no champion. An truly endorsed approach by Trump and the admin would have gotten a sea of enthusiastic champions all over the country. The approach I am suggesting might have produced a whole different mess, but the current mess is pretty bad. As I said, I support his approach on almost every issue since inauguration. I just felt a sickening feeling on health care early on.

111 posted on 07/17/2017 7:30:55 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: dynachrome

Only the exchanges go belly up. Everything else stays - Medicaid expansion, taxes, employer mandate over 50 employees, etc. the exchanges were just a small part of it.


112 posted on 07/17/2017 7:32:49 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: Rockitz

The Republicans were given EVERYTHING they asked for by the American people. They chose cowardice, greed, and selfishness instead of the country.


113 posted on 07/17/2017 7:34:06 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: Jane Long

“Pubbies don’t want a repeal bill passed”

I believe we have no clue how much money ALL of them receive from lobbyists. They get to keep the money, and they get to keep their special health plan that is better than what we peons have. Life’s good; don’t rock the boat.


114 posted on 07/17/2017 7:36:05 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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To: RetiredArmy

“A people unwilling to use extreme violence to obtain or preserve their liberty deserves the tyrants that rule them.” me

“When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have liberty” Jefferson

Time may be coming when they need to feel the fear.


115 posted on 07/17/2017 7:38:03 PM PDT by stockpirate (SETH RICH gave the emails to wikikileaks via murdered ex-UK Amb, murdered he was, cover up it is)
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To: Jane Long

Mile Lee is not very good either, but is UT colleague is horrid.


116 posted on 07/17/2017 7:42:42 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Let's not squander the golden opportunity of 2017.)
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To: Third Person
Obamacare is going to down the tubes all on its own

I do not trust the Republicans. I believe they will fund Obamacare and rebuild. What has the Republicans done for us so far. It has been President Trump and most of the time him alone trying to rebuild America .

117 posted on 07/17/2017 7:44:08 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: Theodore R.

Trump just tweeted that he wants a full repeal now, and everyone can start from scratch with a clean bill.


118 posted on 07/17/2017 7:45:31 PM PDT by mrs9x
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To: MayflowerMadam

Agree 100%.


119 posted on 07/17/2017 7:48:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Rockitz

They act like everyone is worried about medicaid reform. Everyone i know is worried about the crappy policies THEY have, and about exploding premiums. -Nobody- speaks up wishing medicaid was handed out in a block grant and other such crap.


120 posted on 07/17/2017 7:49:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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