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To: HiTech RedNeck
These are the problems churches are having today, introducing 2nd guessing for young Christians. We are not under the Law! We have the right to self defense. God doesn't want His people murdered. Turning your cheek refers to arguing over Christ, not for protecting your life and family. If you are going to break man's law, let it be for the name of Christ. If this guy had no weapon, there could be trouble both spiritual and carnal. If he was armed, then all bets are off. To quote "Thou shalt not kill". misses the translation of "Thou shalt not shed innocent blood" or "Thou shalt not murder". Some people won't step on a cockroach due to this drivel. To turn your cheek just means we should stand firm for Christ, but that says NOTHING about being robbed or beaten to a pulp. If you and I contest over Christ, I'm supposed to take whatever you dish out to avoid being a brawler. Again, robbery and murder do not fall into that category.

Our Founders thought it legal to rebel against the King of England to avoid an ungodly man. They shot and killed many and lost no sleep over it. I assure you they knew more about the Scriptures than most of us on FR put together. Self defense is very different than murder. If we were all conscientious objectors, we would have been wiped out eons ago. The Romans and the Muslims tried hard to kill us all.

If this church allowed this to happen, there would be multiple robberies the rest of the year until someone finally fixed the problem.

36 posted on 07/17/2017 7:50:33 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

I think you’re trying to shout down your own conscience.

You’re indulging in the fallacy of the excluded middle, which says that they’d just wave the robber back out.


37 posted on 07/17/2017 7:52:07 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: chuckles

And how do YOU know the founders didn’t agonize under the moral weight of what they had done? Do you see that assertion backed up by history, or are you arguing from the silence of your ignorance?

The new America also sometimes did worse things to itself than that King George would have done. Slavery wouldn’t have even been a question, for one thing. Would being free of slavery have been worth being part of England’s empire for a longer time?

God granted America’s freedom, but not without a stiff smack on the face to go with it.


38 posted on 07/17/2017 7:54:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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