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Hmmm. Someone is gonna be getting a lump of coal in their Christmas stocking this year. Blasphemy for sure. Maybe even get a giant scarlet "D" to be worn so they're shamed into changing their tune. Or, they're right on the money. Again, there are these questions begging for answers:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

1 posted on 07/09/2017 7:14:54 AM PDT by rktman
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NON print version:

http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/study-blows-greenhouse-theory-out-of-the-water/


2 posted on 07/09/2017 7:16:04 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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The correct anything is whatever requires trillions of dollars to flow through a corrupt government.


3 posted on 07/09/2017 7:23:57 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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From the article:

” “However, they face the question, if not carbon dioxide, what is it?” noted Lloyd, who also serves as a professor at the Agricultural University of Beijing and was nominated by the UN IPCC in 2007 as part of the team to share the Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore.

“Nikolov and Zeller may have found the answer – the sun, . . . ”

Seems to me that “answer” may have been proposed right here on FR a time or two.


5 posted on 07/09/2017 7:27:23 AM PDT by Stosh
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This is a religion, facts do not matter.


7 posted on 07/09/2017 7:34:06 AM PDT by glasseye
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Back in the 1970s, POPULAR SCIENCE constantly hammered about “The Greenhouse Effect!” and how it would heat up the world.

Then in the early 1980s they editorialized about their error and would never mention the name again as it was false.
Ten years later, they started on the “Global Warming” nonsense.


8 posted on 07/09/2017 7:34:23 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The fanatical cult of Anthropogenic Global Warming is the modern day version of the flat earth society. One day, if humanity continues, we will look back on this time as we do on the dark ages and with the Trump renasuance we may just have a shot at it.


10 posted on 07/09/2017 7:38:42 AM PDT by infool7 (The ugly Truth is just a big lie.)
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Money line from the article.

“Humans cannot in principle affect the global climate through industrial emissions of CO2, methane and other similar gases or via changes in land use,” he added. “All observed climatic changes have natural causes that are completely outside of human control.”

Praise the Lord, this is such music to my ears. Scott Pruitt needs to put neutral scientists on the PEER review of their research IMMEDIATELY and make this the official stance of the EPA, assuming their conclusions are true and can be verified. It makes too much sense. The denser and more compressed the air, the hotter is it going to be. Thin air is cold. Dense air is warm. Makes some sense.

11 posted on 07/09/2017 7:40:04 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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You get an A+ for sharing this. I am ecstatic that somebody has generated scientific research finding an alternative and plausible theory of planetary warming to challenge the junk science of the man-caused global warming hoax.

The winning this year is overwhelming.


12 posted on 07/09/2017 7:41:25 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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Cliffs Notes:

The atmosphere’s density is all that matters for temperature. The composition of the atmosphere doesn’t influence the temperature. There could be no water vapor, or half water vapor, or 1% CO2, or 50% CO2.

The planetary temperature would still be the same and would be based primary on solar activity and how it heats that dense air and how the dense air retains that heat and for how long.

Atmospheric composition would make a big difference to plants and animals but as far as the temperature, weather and climate, it would make no difference at all. Only air pressure matters.

So simple, it is BRILLIANT.


14 posted on 07/09/2017 7:45:50 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Trump: What to do now I can't repeal Obamacare? I know, lets start a war with Russia!)
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Great idea to link to the print version - thanks!

BMFL.


18 posted on 07/09/2017 7:51:58 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building)
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There’s no question the climate changes, and there’s no question it was happening before man discovered fire. The so-called consensus scientists never make even an effort to distinguish the influence of human activity from natural climate fluctuations. I believe they don’t because they can’t. And that’s why they won’t tolerate any questioning of their climate dogma; it’s indefensible.


21 posted on 07/09/2017 7:59:30 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Bookmark. And thank you!


23 posted on 07/09/2017 8:05:16 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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btt


25 posted on 07/09/2017 8:21:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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??1.. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.

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A: Whatever is needed to transfer the most money from the grubby masses to the ruling liberal elite and despots.


26 posted on 07/09/2017 8:23:01 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Civil Rights movement compared content of their character to skin color and chose the latter)
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So precise is the formula ... they were able to correctly predict the temperature of other celestial bodies not included in their original analysis.”

The Marxists won’t like this “heresy”.


27 posted on 07/09/2017 8:24:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Should be define “correct” “for any point in time” since they have constructed “time” throughout their anal ysis.


29 posted on 07/09/2017 8:33:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Bump for later


30 posted on 07/09/2017 8:50:55 AM PDT by politicianslie (There are no MODERATE MUSLIMS.. ALL MUSLMS are commanded by KORAN to kill infidels. ALL MUST GO!)
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The basis of the article:

https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/New-Insights-on-the-Physical-Nature-of-the-Atmospheric-Greenhouse-Effect-Deduced-from-an-Empirical-Planetary-Temperature-Model.pdf


32 posted on 07/09/2017 9:05:13 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To Michael Mann, your world is crumbling, You refuse to give data in the Canadian SLAPP lawsuit that you had brought against Dr. Tim Ball. You had agreed to provide it, and now the loser has to pay. You claim he lied about you yet you refuse to offer the data to prove that he lied..,.,why? Because your analysis is flawed and your published theories are being disproved. The wheels are coming off, and this lawsuit should have been as easy as a “can of corn” if what you have been screaming about for 20 odd years was true!

If the science is done, then debate the skeptics and crush them with facts. Destroy them with data, do not hide behind lawsuits and battalions of lawyers. You are a scientist, then prove it with science, Why not do that? Because you analysis is wrong and you cannot prove it, and you have tied yourself to a ten ton anchor then threw it overboard. Your lawyers don’t have the strength to pull it up. Hold your breath!

You created your hockey stick by changing previously accumulated data, by coming up with a nonsense rationale to alter (i.e. lower) temperature readings from the earlier part of the 20th century, to show a higher hockey stick raise in the latter part. This foolery is obvious to any observer, but yet it is a fact that has not been covered thoroughly by the MSM. It is a contra-narrative and the MSM has been protecting you. That adulteration was ugly but then your bogus tree stump readings were then hideously spot welded onto to other data series to create more questionable hockey stick graphs. I am not surprised of your desire to hide it. Totally fabricated and your critics are dead right about you. You now try to obfuscate in a courtroom what you cannot prove in the science hall.

These suits may clear the atmosphere, to coin a phrase, of a lot of factless garbage being spun by your ilk. Now you are forced to perform, unless your lawyers can think up another obfuscation!

Yet - the predictions is where we can rest our hat of your deception; that NYC would be unlivable by 2015, as you have noticed that has not happened, I fear more an Islamic suitcase nuke as a real crisis in NYC rather that the so called rising oceans. The oceans are not doing what you said they would do. Your models have no predictive power. Your scare mongering, and lawsuits are the last refuge of a phony science scoundrel.

Your ridiculous climageddon was called far too soon, and listen moron, if you want to start a false religion, make sure your stupid ass cosmological event, that you have predicted and can solve by selling “indulgences”, is so far into the future that you cannot possibly be alive when it is so hilariously disproved, and then scramble in courtrooms as the ponzi sheep demand their money back. Et Tu Bernie Madoff?

Why should governments continuously give you and Al Gore money. Read the East Anglia emails, you are swimming in a cesspool of bullshit. Your data is a joke, but the industry and the grant money is too big to ignore. All fear, all the time. Scaring the children with tidal waves that will bring the ocean to Ohio, where great whites will devour seven year olds playing in their driveway. It is outrageous, and brings Blazac to mind - behind every great fortune there is a great crime!

Prove it or lose it!


36 posted on 07/09/2017 9:45:05 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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It was my understanding that the science on this was already settled. If you don’t believe me, ask Al Gore.


37 posted on 07/09/2017 9:48:18 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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