Life on Earth was nearly doomed by too little CO2

warrsupwiththat? ^ | June 30, 2017 | Guest Essay by Dennis T. Avery

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

fyi

[rightwingcrazy]

“Since water vapor is the most effective greenhouse gas, the climate modelers claimed Earth might heat by 5 or even 10 degrees C.”

Referring to water as a pollutant would not sell to even the thickest headed of us (Marxists excluded). Perhaps that’s why they’re making “carbon” the boogieman. Sounds like demon coal.

[AdmSmith]

Nice graphs and info in the comments section https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/30/life-on-earth-was-nearly-doomed-by-too-little-co2/

especially in the first one linking to this https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/07/a-brief-history-of-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-record-breaking/

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Thanks for the note.

[BBell]

(Marxists excluded)

Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning Petition

[deadrock]

Enjoyable video. Thanks.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Happily, water vapor will also furnish much if not all of the shielding needed to keep an atmosphere warming from CO2 effects from running away. Clouds.

The thing that clouds have more trouble holding back is actual escalation in the radiation of the sun. Nobody yet has devised a way of looking below the surface of that dense, fiery ball, to my knowledge, and there could not be, unless there were a way to “x ray” it with something like neutrinos. So if solar cycles are waiting to spring on us again, we would not know until they happened, though past cyclical behavior could be a clue.

High CO2 is more an effect than a cause in these cycles. If the solar radiation increases, the ocean will give up the less soluble CO2, like a warm Coke going flat. If it decreases, what was pointed out in the referenced article could happen, with the ocean soaking up CO2.

[null and void]

I usually refer to it in conversation as "the essential plant nutrient, CO₂..."

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Looking thru the comments,....they got some good discussions going on and some considerable disagreements.

[ml/nj]

Now it’s facing doom from liberals and the purveyors of MSBS.

ML/NJ

[cynwoody]

MIT Professor Richard Lindzen summarizes the Global Warming Rhubarb in five minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwqIy8Ikv-c

[justa-hairyape]

They actually do have mechanisms for predicting the magnetic strength as measured by sunspots for the next one or two cycles. NASA itself has preducted the next cycle soon to start will be very weak. They use the speed of currents in the suns plasma. The currents travel along the surface and then down deeper. Similar to how ocean currents on Earth behave. What they got wrong was the cycle just ending. We have now had three cycles in a row with decreasing activity. And the next is supposed to be even weaker. This winter will probably rival the worse any of us have experienced. Temperatures will drop to levels seldom encountered. Snow will also be significant. Atlas is shrugging the hairless apes off again. Last time we dropped to 100,000 worldwide apparently.

[HiTech RedNeck]

If so, we shall soon have global cooling

[HiTech RedNeck]

Something like a lot of sunspots result in high solar winds resulting in more capture of cosmic ray particles resulting in less seeding for clouds resulting in thinner and fewer clouds. Therefore more solar radiation is let in and the earth gets warmer.

We should expect cloudier weather, then, as sunspot activity fades. Which in turn would result in colder weather. And, much snowfall. I’m dreaming of a white Christmas....

[GregNH]

When you mess with Mother Nature....

It's not much of leap to believe that if "we" can get people to believe the planet is melting surely we can get them believe the Russian elected Trump.

Thanks Ernest

[AdmSmith]

Looking thru the comments,....they got some good discussions going on and some considerable disagreements.

Yes, now I am more confused, but at a higher level ;-)

[CodeToad]

Good video. Thanks for posting it.

[exDemMom]

Is the long, wrong-headed war against carbon dioxide finally fading? Science certainly says it should. But perhaps there is still too much money, prestige and power in climate alarmism for that to happen.

President Trump made an important step in stopping the "global warming" nonsense when he refused to have the US participate in the Paris accord any longer. I think that once the US stops this nonsense and stops throwing money at it, the rest of the world will follow. I'm pretty sure the "global warming" craze started with the US in the first place.

A drop from 5,000 ppm to 400 ppm of CO2 is huge. At some point, the concentration is too low for plants to be able to pull CO2 from the air--at which time, life on earth comes to a halt. When more CO2 enters the air, plants extract it and grow more, and everything that depends on plants has more food... in other words, more CO2 equals more living things.

[exDemMom]

I usually refer to it in conversation as "the essential plant nutrient, CO2..."

Actually, it is the building block of all life, since every carbon molecule in our bodies originated as CO2, processed into usable form by plants. (But I think you know that.)

Recently, at a career fair at a local elementary school, I showed kids a CO2 molecule and told them that it is carbon dioxide, which plants eat. I didn't say a thing about the global warming nonsense.