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USS Fitzgerald collision wasn't reported for nearly an hour, Japan says
CBS News ^ | June 19, 2017

Posted on 06/19/2017 10:20:48 AM PDT by Kaslin

Last Updated Jun 19, 2017 11:37 AM EDT

TOKYO -- Japan's coast guard is investigating why it took nearly an hour for a deadly collision between a U.S. Navy destroyer and a container ship to be reported.

A coast guard official said Monday they are trying to find out what the crew of the Philippine-flagged ACX Crystal was doing before reporting the collision off Japan's coast to authorities 50 minutes later.

The ACX Crystal collided with the USS Fitzgerald off Japan's coast, killing seven of the destroyer's crew of nearly 300. The ships collided early Saturday morning, when the Navy said most of the 300 sailors on board would have been sleeping. Authorities have declined to speculate on a cause while the crash remains under investigation.

A track of the much-larger container ship's route by MarineTraffic, a vessel-tracking service, shows it made a sudden turn as if trying to avoid something at about 1:30 a.m., before continuing eastward. It then made a U-turn and returned around 2:30 a.m. to the area near the collision.

The impact crushed the starboard side of the Fitzgerald. The ship was listing as it sailed into its home port in Yokosuka, Japan, Saturday, CBS News correspondent Ben Tracy reports. The commander of the U.S. 7th Fleet said the sailors' actions kept the ship from sinking.

"This was not a small collision," Vice Adm. Joseph Aucoin said. "It was right near the pilot's house, and there is a big puncture."

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Japan
KEYWORDS: maritime; usnavy; ussfitzgerald
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To: al baby

“Something stinks in japan”

Yes, it’s the crew of the Fitzgerald.

The most advanced ship in the world got hit by a lumbering container ship on the open seas.


61 posted on 06/19/2017 11:25:15 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ltc8k6

It was a sudden U-turn. Big difference.


62 posted on 06/19/2017 11:26:22 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: dsc

This could be like 2012 USS Porter collision. Total incompetence.


63 posted on 06/19/2017 11:26:51 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: garyb
For FWIW department:
The Fitz was on ABM (she was packing the Standard Missile-3 (SM-3) Block IIA)picket duty to protect Tokyo and surrounding areas from anything the Norks would sling that way.
She operates in a restricted area (off limits to normal commercial traffic) usually sailing in a “Box”, she may even been hove to. That restricted area was breached by the Crystal, the Fitz may have been thinking she was in “Protected waters”, the Crystal made a last minute port turn into the Fitz
64 posted on 06/19/2017 11:27:20 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: ltc8k6

That is why it hit the Fitzgerald.


65 posted on 06/19/2017 11:28:56 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: ltc8k6

That is why it hit the Fitzgerald, or rather rammed the Fitzgerald


66 posted on 06/19/2017 11:29:36 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: dsc

“””I’ve seen the freighter’s track; I’d like to see the DDG’s.”””


Me too.


67 posted on 06/19/2017 11:30:08 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Uncle Sam 911

I was Army also but I do know soldiers or sailors need to be on watch/guard at night and to be extra vigilant. This thing stinks.


68 posted on 06/19/2017 11:30:31 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: blueunicorn6

“What I’m not going to do is disparage our Sailors when we don’t have enough facts.”

When the most advanced warship in the world gets hit by a container ship...on the open seas...the crew of the warship was most definitely negligent and incompetent.

The Fitz has a top speed of 40kts and can do a 180deg turn in less than a mile. It can see and track every surface vessel for 50 miles in every direction.

Courts Martial is appropriate for all involved.

Manslaughter the appropriate charge.


69 posted on 06/19/2017 11:32:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: outpostinmass2

Fox News reported it several days ago.


70 posted on 06/19/2017 11:33:32 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter

Most Naval Warships do not have a transponder , so you wont be seeing the Fitzs track, perhaps after the inquiry on board INS will be shared.


71 posted on 06/19/2017 11:33:53 AM PDT by Robe (A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Travis McGee

The Fitz could EASILY avoid an intentional ramming by a cargo ship at sea.

Easily.


72 posted on 06/19/2017 11:35:29 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Yes, the idea that the Fitz crew was incompetent enough for this to occur is inconceivable and an insult to the Navy.

This resulted from a deliberate act by someone on the Fitz.


73 posted on 06/19/2017 11:36:13 AM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Mariner

It was the container ship that made a sudden U-turn in the crowded area, not the Fitzgerald.


74 posted on 06/19/2017 11:36:24 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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To: Robe

Thank you.


75 posted on 06/19/2017 11:36:34 AM PDT by garyb (What if you can't trust the voice in your head?)
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To: ltc8k6
It would only be ironic if there was some connection.

There does not appear to be any.

I'm truly sorry that it went
so very far over you head.

irony

1 |ˈīrənē, ˈiərnē| noun (pl. ironies)
the expression of one's meaning by ,
using language that normally signifies
the opposite, typically for humorous
or emphatic effect: “Don't go overboard
with the gratitude,” he rejoined with heavy irony.

• a state of affairs or an event
that seems deliberately contrary
to what one expects and is
often amusing as a result:


76 posted on 06/19/2017 11:38:32 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Travis McGee
A petty officer is staring at the radar every single minute, and he is plotting the courses and the Closest Point of Approach (CPA) of every contact he sees. In addition, there is a lookout with a headset in comms with the bridge posted on the bow, the stern, and each bridge wing (outside). It’s a friendly competition to see if the lookout can spot a small boat unseen on radar. Every young set of eyes wants to be the first to spot a contact, and does not want to hear, “Bow lookout, do you see that fishing boat a mile ahead?” The bow lookout wants to be telling the bridge, “I see something ahead, a small boy, do you have it on radar?”

Further: the CO of the ship has standing orders which are reiterated every night that he must be awoken if any contact has a CPA closer than a certain distance of a set number of miles. The distance might vary according to conditions, (traffic, fog, etc), but generally any projected CPA closer than a few miles, and the captain will be on the bridge. The CPA of three miles, for example, might be projected to occur a half hour in the future, but the captain will be brought to the bridge from his “at sea” cabin which is only a few steps away. And when in doubt: get the captain!

Now, looking at the six turns made by the ACX Crystal, it looks to me as if the person at the helm took the decision to make a U-turn and come back in pursuit of lining up a collision attack against the Fitzgerald. There is no innocent explanation for those six turns ending up in a ramming. There are some reports that the Crystal turned off its AIS radar transponder, radios, and running lights.

Wasn't the captain injured in his cabin? You've made a strong case for the ramming being intentional... which would be supported by the oddity of not reporting the incident for over an hour... but WHAT could possibly be the motive?

77 posted on 06/19/2017 11:39:33 AM PDT by GOPJ (James Hodgkinson a Bernie Sanders true believer)kicks off Resistance Summer by shooting Republicans)
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To: GOPJ

Why wasn’t the Captain awakened according to protocol?


78 posted on 06/19/2017 11:41:09 AM PDT by petitfour (APPEAL TO HEAVEN)
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To: Kaslin

it would take the container ship at least 5-8 miles to do a 180.

At least.


79 posted on 06/19/2017 11:41:19 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
It wasn't in the open sea, the area was crowded

Map of the collision


80 posted on 06/19/2017 11:43:46 AM PDT by Kaslin (The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triump. Thomas Paine)
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