Posted on 06/18/2017 2:59:50 PM PDT by Strac6
“At 6:43 p.m., a Syrian regime SU-22 dropped bombs near SDF fighters south of Tabqa and, in accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defense of Coalition partnered forces, was immediately shot down by a U.S. F/A-18E Super Hornet,” the coalition confirmed.”
SDF includes Kurds and Christians, so much for Assad being the protector of Christians, if we didn’t know it already.
So stick up for the Assads who bombed 250 Marines in Beirut. Wow.
US SDF = Christians, Kurds and Arabs.
DT said he was going to crush ISIS, and this is exactly what is happening.
You don't see this stuff in the MSM for a reason you shouldn't have to figure out.
The coalition is liberating Raqqa, and killing ISIS. Both in Syria, and Iraq.
That is the end game.
Oh, sure, Putin.
How are those air defense sales going to his buddy Erdogan, you know, Turkey who shot down a Russian plane.
Yep, that’s why the Bush administration as a matter of record almnost invaded Syria as well; cause Assad aided Al Qaeda and other militants attacking US forces. And that’s on a timeline. No doubt about it, back before 2008.
These threads get so much Iranian/Syrian/Russian prop nonsense.
I’d hate to see our foreign policy officials run this like some comments I read.
Wow, it’s a flying radar reflector.
“...in accordance with rules of engagement and in collective self-defense of Coalition partnered forces”
And SDF pilots also get many verbal warnings in Arabic. Such as, “you are entering coalition airspace, if you do not turn back you will be fired upon” over and over. Somebody wanted to get shot down.
It strikes me that major war overseas would wash away a lot of the navel-gazing investigations around here. Just sayin... Dangerous times ahead.
If you think Iraq is a mess...
SU24 “frog foot” is the ground attack fighter.
“Let Russia and Syria wipe out the filth.”
There is an important third player on that team - Iran.
After three years of the Islamic State controlling the Iraqi/Syrian border, and the desert oil fields in Syria, they are now up for grabs.
A lot of players (like the Saudis, Israelis and Americans) do not want the Iranians to end up effectively controlling a route from Iran to the Med, for military and/or pipeline purposes.
Another geostrategic consideration is the fate of the Kurds, who are the ones defeating ISIS for us on the ground in Syria. Turkey, Syria, Iran and Iraq are all worried about Kurdish independence movements.
Some have reported that Turkey has eased up pressure from the jihadis that it supports in Western Syria, to free up the Syrians and Iranians to go after territory in the East, where the Kurds and Americans are.
The race is on to cement territory before the war is over, and the head-butting is getting more serious.
And that resulted in England declaring war on France.
“Sick. Our national sickness continues. McMaster and his buddies are still hell bent on going after Assad. Assad is their only goal there. ISIS was our tool and got out of hand, but going after them is only to facilitate the continuing effort to go after Assad.
Another sad day in our history. The neocons won today.”
Spot on. To be sure, Assad is no angel, but he is secular & and is a protector of the Christian minority.
The neocons long to see Syria under strict Sharia law. Sadly, there are a few of them on this thread.
Shameful.
Where is the legal definition of failed state? Where is the legal justification to declare a failed state? Where is the specific legal or constitutional authorization to commit an act of war in a sovereign country.
This is the kind of stuff that Hillary and Jeb supported, not Trump.
Revenge for the Russians recently killing Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi...?
Very accurate.
The forgot the Colin Powell Rule: “Getting in is easy. But before you get in, decide how you can get out.”
My question is, why did we ever admit ONE Syrian refugee. Isn’t it cruel to take then from 120 degree deserts and move them in February to -20 degree Minneapolis?
Why not simply set up a 100 mile by 100 mile “safe zone” in Jordan or Egypt and send them all there. 1/10 the cost, and no refugee/terrorists here?
You are absolutely right. Assad was such a peach when they were allowing terrorists to rest and refit in Syria, and they were coming back into Iraq with weapons and funding. I really enjoyed my time in Iraq with an Iranian proxy state arming terrorists to attack us......well before Emperor 0 ever announced his candidacy. Every Iraqi in Mosul was trying to alert us that the "chemyawi" (chemical weapons) was on an Iraqi military convoy to Syria.
I'm not advocating going to war with another country, and certainly not going to war with Russia over some islamic shithole. 0 was, is, and always will be a feckless idiot. He probably thought he'd be lauded as some kind of hero if "democracy" came to Syria.
There's a new Sheriff in town and the SDF are the least bad out of the three major factions, ISIS, SDF, and the regime. Which, Kurds make up a major portion of the SDF and is lead by the YPG -the peshmerga fought on our side during the Gulf War (we established a no fly zone to protect them), and then again during OIF I....I know, they were part of our defensive lines in 2003. We actually went to relieve them at a hospital they were protecting from Saddam's Fadahayin.
We have a long history of protecting the Kurds, and they have a long history of fighting on our side....even after we bailed in the Gulf War.
To the folks on here claiming we created ISIS to overthrow Asad, bullshit.
Abu Musab Al Zarqawi left Afghanistan (before the U.S. ever went into Iraq), and then sought to create an insurgency against the U.S.....again prior to the invasion of Iraq. He established an Al Qa'ida in Iraq stronghold.
He was 'reprimanded' by Ayman Al Zawhiri (then Al Qa'ida main #2; now the #1) for his ruthless oppression of Iraqi locals and furthering of sectarian strife.
After his death, AQI went through some transition, and in 2006 merged with multiple other Sunni islamic terror groups to form The Islamic State of Iraq.
The group later went under ground (with much of it in Syria) and decided to wait for the Feckless 0ne to withdrawal U.S. troops and create a security vacuum. Once instability struck Syria, the group merged and morphed again, this time fully organized by a former Iraqi Ba'athist intelligence officer. It declared itself a caliphate as the Islamic State of Iraq al Sham (Syria) and took over large swaths of Iraq and Syria.
ISIS broke with Al Qa'iadi (and is still following the Al Zarqawi school of thought and methods), and AQ loyalists went with Al Nusrah Front.
W lacked the political will to destroy them when he had the chance, choosing to not conduct major urban operations in Iraq after Operation Phantom Fury. Once everything calmed in Al Anbar province in early 2007, no military commander wanted to rock the boat; large numbers of U.S. casualties was deemed politically untenable....so everyone pretended the problem didn't exist. More or less, they didn't attack us, and we didn't attack them.
0 was a bumbling fool and all the more happy to spike the football that he "got us out of Iraq." Worse he tried to jump in front of the parade marching toward Assad. That plan failed when many of the groups they sponsored surrendered or defected to Al Nusrah Front. However, the YPG and other groups who are interested in ousting ISIS, al Qa'ida, AND Asad are what now makes up the SDF.
To paraphrase Regan, I'm not saying there are a lot of ignorant people on here, but so much of what they know just isn't so. A little bit of research goes a long way.
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