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Only Mass Deportation Can Save America [Of Natives] [ed]
NY Times ^ | June 16, 2017 | Bret Stephens

Posted on 06/18/2017 4:40:14 AM PDT by C19fan

In the matter of immigration, mark this conservative columnist down as strongly pro-deportation. The United States has too many people who don’t work hard, don’t believe in God, don’t contribute much to society and don’t appreciate the greatness of the American system. They need to return whence they came. I speak of Americans whose families have been in this country for a few generations. Complacent, entitled and often shockingly ignorant on basic points of American law and history, they are the stagnant pool in which our national prospects risk drowning.

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KEYWORDS: immigration
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To: C19fan
Yup,I'm second generation native born.My grandparents came here fleeing British oppression and the aftermath of the potato famine.They came legally.They came when there was no such thing as welfare,food stamps,public housing,medicaid,free telephones,free school lunches,etc.My father's older brother used to tell stories of seeing signs in the window or at the gate of employers which read "No Irish Need Apply".

All the men of my family (including me) served honorably in the United States Armed Forces.We've always paid our taxes.Not one of us has ever been accused of anything more serious than illegal parking.

Go fornicate yourself Bret!

Go back to your house in Greenwich,the one that your Daddy left you in his will.
21 posted on 06/18/2017 6:35:51 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Comey = The Swamp Fighting Back)
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To: C19fan

My view is pretty simple; 1. Deport all muslims. 2. Quit importing (legal or illegal) people from 3rd world countries.


22 posted on 06/18/2017 6:50:17 AM PDT by umgud
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To: C19fan

I wouldn’t mind seeing incentives given to people, to leave. Some aren’t happy here, they are violent ect ect. If we could deport 15 or 30 million of the non illegals, country would be better off.


23 posted on 06/18/2017 7:00:50 AM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: IronJack

Well said.

As the late, great Terry Anderson used to say (black anti-illegal immigration radio host) we “used to” do or have a lot of things. Slavery and Jim Crow, for instance. We stopped those things. So why do we have to keep taking in immigrants just because we “used to”? If immigration doesn’t work for us anymore, we should absolutely stop it. No apologies, no groveling. Just stop it.


24 posted on 06/18/2017 7:06:11 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: Carry me back

I disagree wuth his overall premise though.


25 posted on 06/18/2017 7:10:48 AM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%)
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To: Nea Wood
The other ludicrous defense of untrammeled immigration is the "poor, tired, huddled masses yearning to breathe free" declaration on the Statue of Liberty.

The Statue of Liberty was dedicated in 1886. At that time, the Western Frontier was still open (the Oklahoma Land Rush wouldn't take place for another three years). Vast stretches of the Midwest were unsettled. There was no welfare system; you rose and fell on the strength of your own abilities.

And Emma Lazarus' poem, from which those cliched lines hail, has no official weight. The work was written as a fund-raising effort to get the statue completed.

This nation's immigration policy is spelled out in a far more venerable document: our Constitution. Poets don't make policy; statesmen do.

26 posted on 06/18/2017 7:35:04 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
At the Rochester Institute of Technology, just 9.5 percent of graduate students in electrical engineering were nonimmigrants.

Stephens, and many others wrongly attribute the high percentage of foreign students in graduate programs to a lack of interest by American students. In fact, universities have a preference for foreign students in many circumstances, and unlike the situation in other countries, American students are forced to compete against students from around the world - and the playing field is far from level. Many qualified American students are forced to take other career and educational paths due to the decisions made by the universities.

In addition, foreign students have more motivations to enter into lengthy graduate degree programs. The programs allow them to stay in the United States longer, and prepare them for academic positions worldwide. Many of the students either have access to significant family financial resources, or have external support for their studies.

Talented American students, most of whom are forced to pay their own way with borrowed money, are much more inclined to enter the work force and begin earning money.

27 posted on 06/18/2017 8:38:38 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Nifster
Really? How about whit NE liberals?

How about we start with people who listen to NPR and voted for Hillary Clinton?

28 posted on 06/18/2017 8:40:56 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

Works for me


29 posted on 06/18/2017 9:18:18 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: freeandfreezing

Talented American students, most of whom are forced to pay their own way with borrowed money, are much more inclined to enter the work force and begin earning money.
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I cannot tell you how many students are in this group. Hundreds of thousands. And at two of the universities where I taught, tuition was cheaper for foreign students than for American students who were out of state. Capitation funding started all this in the maybe 50’s and 60’s...I am not sure...with it being full blown by the 70 and 80’s. Being a female PhD the male students from foreign countries were very difficult as many thought they could cheat and get away with it because I was a woman. And frankly, Muslims from any country were the worst. Are you surprised?


30 posted on 06/18/2017 10:05:25 AM PDT by Bodega (we are developing less and less common sense...world wide)
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To: P.O.E.

If we had a free market system operating with no government protection for any industry and no welfare, immigration would not be an issue. It would be back to meeting them at the borders and screening for health and criminality. Freeloaders would not come in the first place. If numbers were to become overwhelming we shut off immigration altogether for a couple of generations. America became strong on just that system.


31 posted on 06/18/2017 2:30:41 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: arthurus

So it makes one ponder who and under what motivations are these things promulgated. I think we all know the answer.


32 posted on 06/18/2017 7:59:10 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: C19fan

From Wikipedia:

Stephens was born in New York City,[3] the son of Xenia and Charles J. Stephens, a former vice president of General Products, a chemical company in Mexico.[4][5] His parents were both secular Jews. His paternal grandfather had changed the family surname from Ehrlich to Stephens (after poet James Stephens).[6] He was raised in Mexico City, where his father was born and worked.


33 posted on 06/19/2017 3:26:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: WashingtonSource; Liz; GOPJ; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne
Look at the comments. The New York Times readers whole-heartedly endorse his idea, proving it was not in jest in their minds at all.

NYT receives anonymous "leaks" from the deep state. WaPo may be worse, bought by Amazon's Jeff Bezos for $250M, who in that same year received $600M from the CIA, and now will provide cloud storage for them. No declaration of conflict of interest when they "report" on the CIA.

34 posted on 06/19/2017 9:13:30 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Why didn't the FBI examine DNC servers?)
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