Posted on 06/17/2017 6:14:26 PM PDT by plain talk
Just come out and say it. You prefer the federal government make those decisions instead of the people in the states. Don’t be ashamed, some people just trust big government that way. you do, I don’t.
I just thought of a clearer and simpler rebuttal.
The ends do not justify the means.
Why yes, as you well know, i've long argued that our lives should be completely ran by crony capitalist elites out of Washington D.C. (and New York)
Give me a break.
Good post............
Really?
Unwashed is right...........
Good for you. You’re still evolving, I see. Just earlier today you had stated that the Corwin Amendment would have made slavery permanent and irrevocable in the Union. Seems you’ve softened that a tad and now you say the Corwin Amendment would have “kept it more firmly in place”. Hopefully, by day’s end, you will realize that the Corwin Amendment was all and only about making slavery a States rights issue, and not an issue that Congress or the Feds could have any hand in. That would be real progress on your part.
You mean the "group think" that agrees with you think that someone who doesn't is a "loon." Yes, i'm well aware of the lack of objectivity your group possesses, but hopefully in the fullness of time they will be able to overcome their failings and mature intellectually.
The tragedy of it all is you don't know it and you seem incapable or unwilling of comprehending how stupid you make yourself sound.
The problem you face here is that *I'm* the one who knows what he is talking about. You people are simply regurgitating the propaganda that America has been taught since 1860. You aren't going to rattle me because I'm confident in the knowledge I have obtained on this issue.
Here is another bit of information for you. Being right when others are wrong has been a common occurrence throughout my life. It has literally become a routine for me, and i'm long accustomed to demonstrating to College Professors, Lawyers, Engineers and Doctors that they have been mistaken on particular points.
You're going to have to do better than insinuating insults and calling me names if you are going to impress me, which so far you haven't. Put forth a better argument, with better supporting facts, and then I might take you seriously.
I almost wonder if there's some sort of mental health issue going on with you. Obsessive/compulsive disorder or maybe you're bi-polar.
I probably have functional Aspergers. I've long suspected this because much of my life fits the symptoms. Focused, obsessive, methodical and hyper active are my normal methods of solving problems.
But I don't see it as a bad thing. I see it as an advantage. :)
You have found a tiny acorn and you simply cannot quit crowing about it. "Look at me! I found a tiny quibble which I keep repeating over and over again because this tiny little nonsense point makes me feel *SO* good!!!!!"
You take issue with the word "Permanent." Your utterly stupid point is that a 3/4ths majority of states can amend the constitution. Yes, we know you little child, but for the foreseeable future the point remains that the Corwin amendment would have made it extremely difficult to get rid of it.
No, nothing is "permanent", not even the pyramids. I hear the sun will burn out in another 4.5 billion years, but non childish people do not make a big deal out of pointing out the word "permanent" is not accurate when you postulate infinity.
And this is what I have come to expect from you. Trivial sophistry instead of a valid argument about the facts surrounding the Civil War and the Crony-Capitalist/Federal-Leviathan system which was created and enriched by it.
This is why I often ignore you. When I see your name, I can usually expect some sort of inconsequential bit of whining that doesn't get anywhere near having relevance to what ought to be the main focus of the discussion.
For those of you who do not know what we are talking about, the Corwin Amendment is as follows:
No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.
As d@mn close to permanent as anything i've ever heard insofar as the US Constitution is concerned. An amendment to prohibit amendments to the Constitution on this specific issue?
How are you going to walk that back, oh Handy Dandy?
Lower taxes for all citizens in the county is not justified in your eyes? Nice to know.
But Richmond would have been OK.
Through the power of government taking away someone else's basic human rights?
Congratulations. You've justified slavery.
You may have missed it, but I have addressed this point too. In one of the numerous discussions on this topic, I postulated that in an alternative timeline in which the South got and maintained their independence, that by this point in time, I would have been bitching about the Arrogant Out-of-Touch Elites in Charleston instead of New York.
I think money and power always dance with each other, and if you have one, you can get the other. I think the Human beings of Charleston and Richmond would have been just as susceptible to abuse of power as have been the human beings of New York and Washington D.C.
I think abuse of power is an inherent temptation in human nature, and I think the only thing that can be done about it is to put as many obstacles in the path of those who would exercise power as is reasonable.
As Thomas Jefferson said:
In questions of powers, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.
Ohhh, so close. Now you you walk back that the Amendment “would have made Slavery permanent and irrevocable”. Because that was a lie. Now you realize that the amendment would have made interference by Congress, as Lincoln stated, “permanent and irrevocable”. Ironic that you defend your use of his wording so staunchly. Even though he was not implying what you did. Face it, guy.
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