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If Trump is innocent of collusion with Russia, what happens to the media?
The Washington Examiner ^ | May 25, 2017 | Lisa Boothe

Posted on 05/26/2017 1:34:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With the investigation into Russia's interference in our election underway, the mainstream media has engaged in rampant speculation about President Trump's administration. Despite any evidence of collusion or an actual crime that has taken place, publications and networks have drawn comparisons to President Richard Nixon and Watergate. They have wildly and recklessly speculated about impeachment and obstruction of justice. But no one is asking the more likely question: What happens to the media if the president is innocent?

The media is already suffering from a credibility crisis. Trust in the media is at an all-time low. And according to Gallup, 55 percent of people believe the media is often inaccurate. A Harvard-Harris poll had a similar finding, showing that 65 percent of voters believe there is a lot of fake news in the mainstream media....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; media; russia; trump; trumpmedia; trumprussia
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1 posted on 05/26/2017 1:34:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Instead of ‘fake news’ I prefer the old fashioned term: outright lies...........


2 posted on 05/26/2017 1:38:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (Profanity is the sound of an ignorant mind trying to express itself.............)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To have “collusion”, you need a crime.

No crime, no collusion. Just a Liberal Wet Dream.


3 posted on 05/26/2017 1:41:00 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At some point, just to stir the pot, I think the Russians will ask if they can present some evidence, and there will be some indications of the Clinton Foundation and John Podesta having talks with insider-lobbyists to the Russians. At that point, the news media will shut down this topic very quickly, and the investigation will drag on for six months while no one says a word, even in leaks. By mid-term elections in 2018....this will be mostly a forgotten subject.

The problem I see here...is that there are two types of Russian conversations. One could lead onto Russian government folks (like the Ambassador), and the other could lead onto the billionaire-crowd and cash-pay-outs. When you try to identify which is which...then you come to realize the billionaire-crowd just want insider information to get rich just like the Saudis and various US banks did over the past twenty years. Will we prosecute on those insider talks? I seriously doubt it.


4 posted on 05/26/2017 1:52:18 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The media industry needs a Martin Luther to lead it to a Reformation.


5 posted on 05/26/2017 1:53:21 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the media will continue on. Never any punishment. They a good boy. Conservatives fight with their fists, and liberals use feminine methods like psy ops. Head games, like women. No offense.


6 posted on 05/26/2017 1:53:44 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Nothing happens to the media.

They never have to be held accountable.

They control the "memory hole" that they will use to make their entire, fabricated, "Russian Collusion" propaganda effort disappear.

7 posted on 05/26/2017 1:54:33 AM PDT by Washi
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mass-scale RICO charges against the media.


8 posted on 05/26/2017 1:54:42 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Trump is innocent of collusion with Russia, what happens to the media?

well then, as always we just go down the prepared talking points/headlines list...

---it is the fourth oncoming blood moon...

---it was the deplorables' conspiracy...

---it's the clingers with their bible and gun prayers...

---it was my wife...Morgan Fairchild...

yeaaaah, that's the ticket!!!

9 posted on 05/26/2017 2:11:13 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: fieldmarshaldj

RICO investigation is a very good idea.


10 posted on 05/26/2017 2:19:26 AM PDT by exnavy (God save the republic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will simply move to another trumped up charge.


11 posted on 05/26/2017 2:24:14 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If there’s no global warming, what happens to Climatology departments?


12 posted on 05/26/2017 2:44:56 AM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is a fraud.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The problem with the media is not "accuracy" of reported news as the poll may seem to suggest. It is apparent that the media has become politically weaponized and the measurement of "accuracy" at the source is now in context to the intended political result.

Thus, if the intended result is to deligitimize the POTUS, anything that furthers that narrative is newsworthy and thus justified as responsible from within. We have seen recently internal (to the media) criticism of reporting the news which "normalizes" Trump. This accuracy of reporting current days events without first politically contextualizing it is "inaccurate" according to their self governing consensus. Can anyone see the prejudice there?

The inability of introspection within the DNC and the media is one and the same. They no longer tolerate elections as relevant input towards their view of things, or as the respected and justified will of others; but rather elections are now just a score on how effective they have been media wide in convincing everyone else that they are wrong. They simply have no respect for any other viewpoint (bias) than their own. Everyone else just hasn't received enough "information". We even see this as a form of compassion (condescension) towards perpetrators of murder like we see in the terror attacks.

What happens if Trump is innocent of collusion? I guess you mean if Trump is found to be innocent by investigation? The media is shown to be out of the closet as being ideologically biased. But we know that already.

Maybe we can get them to add letters by their names or something. Wolf Blitzer (D). Something like that. Or Stephen Colbert (P). Etc.

13 posted on 05/26/2017 2:54:28 AM PDT by Religion and Politics (It's Morning in America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Answer:

Nothing.


14 posted on 05/26/2017 2:58:55 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The worst thing that can happen to the media is already happening ... People SHOULD stop watching them.


15 posted on 05/26/2017 3:04:00 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: Raycpa

They’ll definitely do that (to keep the heat on through his presidency, and if they sway 1% of people with each story then 100 stories should work wonders); on top of that, they’ll leave the myth hanging out there so believers can cling to it.

Look at how the 2000 election is treated for a comparison; I still hear stupid people insist Gore won FL despite losing every recount.


16 posted on 05/26/2017 3:11:47 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We've all known Trump for 4 decades. With a loan from dad he took to NYC to develop condos & coops. He now owns casinos, golf clubs, manages hotels and high-rises, runs beauty contests, is a serial entrepreneur brandishing his name on everything from bottled water to neckties, he has municipal, state and federal construction contracts, and had a hit network TV show, he makes tens of millions of dollars per year personally.

So tell me, what the heck does Trump need from Putin?

And for his part, Putin is the strongman leader of Russia, former high ranking member of the Russian foreign intelligence spy agency, friends with men richer than Trump (who are so rich by their collusion with Putin - even Putin's friend from youth is an orchestral musician who somehow amassed a $500 million fortune of his own! (yeah, right)). So what does Putin need from Trump? Does Putin with his experience in KGB and as leader of Russia need Trump to tell him what and when to hack?

On the other hand, Hillary Clinton was instrumental in the development of a Russian industrial park Skolvoko, after taking money from Russian oligarchs, and lured many of America's greatest technology companies (who were also donors to the Clinton Foundation) into setting up shop in Skolvoko and becoming what the FBI later characterized as unwitting victims of Russian industrial espionage. This alone should raise suspicion of Sedition - if done under the auspices of the State Department it might be protected but because nearly all the players have funneled huge sums of money into a private organization controlled by the then Sec of State it deserves much greater scrutiny.

This whole Trump+Russia chimera has no basis in logic, while at the same time there also appears to be much more blatant, overt collusion by the Clinton to enable Russian spy agencies to easily extract valuable and sensitive technological know how. That many of these companies are also contractors to the US government warrants thorough investigation on what may have been compromised and whether any quid-pro-quo was established (bribery). Too many coincidences including the special access to State Dept by CGI donors to simply let this lay uninvestigated. Comey deserved to be fired for usurping the role of the DOJ in asserting "no charges to be filed" after a brief investigation of emails that had been wiped from her private server, and without at that time knowing that these emails were backed-up in the NYC apartment of Huma Abedin nor having access to the CGI communications.

The one saving grace in all this is that the Special Prosecutor Robert Meuller has pretty much free reign to investigate all of this and much more. In my mind it would be hard for him not to make a connection and investigate the origins of any and all "collusion" between all the candidates, politicians, diplomats, corporations that may have played a part in this saga. Indeed there is a chance - given the recent shake-up inside the DOJ and FBI, that the DOJ is rope-a-doping some of these characters by playing along with the Democrats as cover for an investigation into their dealings.

This is probably a much bigger mess than anyone wants to admit, and I have no idea how all the dots will connect, especially when you start to add in some of the bizarre twists like all the emails that ended up on Weiner's laptop, the laptops taken from the offices of Debbie Wasserman Shulz's offices, the IT brothers who had no security clearance but open access to scores of Congressional servers, the mysterious murder of Seth Rich and so on... the roads this investigation could travel are endless. And judging by the near hysteria coming from Podesta, Brazille, and Wasserman-Schulz one has to wonder if they are acutely aware of how this could all blow back on them.

17 posted on 05/26/2017 3:29:12 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: ez
The worst thing that can happen to the media is already happening ... People SHOULD stop watching them.

A body-slam here and there would help.

18 posted on 05/26/2017 3:57:42 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump should punish the usual suspects with NO interviews or appearances.

Show up on fair networks and, to really twist the knife, fair AFFILIATES. Go to medium size markets in swing states. The networks will HAVE to carry the interview killing the so-called “stars” of Netwok news.


19 posted on 05/26/2017 3:58:29 AM PDT by LeonardFMason (426)
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To: exnavy

...”RICO investigation is a very good idea.”...

Sad to say, but, where can honest investigators be found? Might they be enablers of the revolution going on all around us because they have the same anti-freedom ideology as the press? If I could be Congress for a day, the first thing I would do would be to cut the head off the snake of the trillionaires who were birthed in Silicon Valley. In the old days companies like Standard Oil were broken up when they became monopolies. I would start with Face Book and social media which is run by people who are richer than countries and use their money and power to grab control over our form of government. Social media is very destructive to us in ways we cannot yet comprehend. I disabled my FB because of my belief that it is not a good thing for society. (I am not stupid enough to think that made any difference. It only made me feel better). Many people love it because they can totally rewrite their history there. I saw it happen time and time again. FB may exist to a great extent on false information and is that not true of Twitter and the others? Without an event which threatens the very existence of everyone, this nation and probably, all others, will not turn around. Punishment only exists for people who try to speak the truth. The world turns, mostly on cowardice, lies, and the lust for power and money. Look at the past. It is the old, old story of human civilizations which fell. Human beings never learn. One more thing about FB and it’s ability to censor. A friend who is conservative and a retired teacher told me that he has 1000 plus friends and he did an experiment after realizing that, unlike his other posts, he received almost no “likes” or comments when he posted a conservative opinion. So, he did some investigation and found that only a very few friends received his post. He believes he was censored. So, FB may be much more powerful in getting out the ideology of Zuckerberg and his employees than the left wing media is. Something to think about. This a.m., I read where Zuckerberg has just suggested that nations should give everyone a guaranteed annual income. That is called the “Cloward-Piven” political strategy (1966) and comes from two sociologists/political activists who wanted a political crisis in the US, using an overloading of the welfare system in order to turn everything over to the government and, therefore, take individual freedoms away. The application of this strategy nearly bankrupted New York City in 1975 and it’s goal is to collapse the system. Some people believe that President Obama applied this strategy in our welfare system during his term, as he doubled the number of recipients for food stamps and EBT. Conservatives believe the goal of this is to set fire to all social structures in the US and then, to assimilate them into a new globalist system. Evidently, that is a dream of Zuckerberg’s and he might possibly have the power to do it while only in his 30s.


20 posted on 05/26/2017 4:22:46 AM PDT by jazzlite
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