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Melania and Ivanka wear black veils to meet the Pope at the Vatican after deciding not to wear [tr]
U.K. Daily Mail ^ | 5/24/2017 | Kelly McLaughlin

Posted on 05/24/2017 4:34:55 AM PDT by simpson96

Full article title: "Melania and Ivanka wear black veils to meet the Pope at the Vatican after deciding not to wear head scarfs on Saudi visit (just like Michelle Obama) - as Pope asks the first lady if she's feeding Trump cake"

First Lady Melania Trump and the president's daughter, Ivanka, dressed in all black and wore veils to meet Pope Francis on Wednesday, just as former First Lady Michelle Obama did when she met Pope Benedict.

The women traveled to the Vatican on Wednesday with President Donald Trump, who was meeting with Francis for one of his most high-profile talks.

Trump, Melania, Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner were greeted in a Vatican courtyard by Archbishop George Ganswein, the prefect of the pontifical household.

Melania and Ivanka kept with tradition and wore veils to meet Francis. The veil, or mantilla, is traditionally worn by women as a sign of respect when meeting the Pope. Trump senior aide Hope Hicks wore one as well.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fashion; firstladymelania; flotus; flotusmelania; ivanka; melania; popefrancis; trump; trumpfamily; trumppopefrancis; trumpvaticanvisit; trumpvisit; vatican; veils
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Comment #141 Removed by Moderator

To: Mechanicos
Its the correct optics for a funeral...

Let's just throw out all the rules and protocol, since they offend you, and give the media more to complain about.


142 posted on 05/24/2017 1:22:40 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Grampa Dave

Yep cataract removals and lens implants if needed can sure
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143 posted on 05/24/2017 1:35:47 PM PDT by deport
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To: JenB987
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144 posted on 05/24/2017 2:02:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: silverleaf
See post 142.
145 posted on 05/24/2017 2:04:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: onedoug
Happiness is a moral virtue. This pope does not seem happy at all.

Love how, in the video of him sitting across from Trump at his desk, Il Papa willed himself to rearrange his face into a smile to say, "Welcome." I lol'd.

146 posted on 05/24/2017 2:06:56 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: grania; simpson96
re: Melania brought up Serbian Orthodox?

This old article from DailyMail says her relatives in Slovenia are Catholic, and were aghast that she was not baptised in childhood, possibly since her father (but not her mother) was a member of the Communist Party back then before Eastern Europe was liberated from the Soviets—it was the way to get a job. Then again, DailyMail is often so inaccurate and secular, the reporter may have confused Catholicism with Orthodox—it wouldn't surprise me—Serbian Orthodox being the dominant religion in that part of Slovenia.

Melania was married to Donald by an Episcopal priest, but in a hotel ballroom; reportedly they as a couple had attended the Episcopal church near Mar-a-Lago well before he ran for President, and paparazzi were staked out there the last two Christmases and Easters to capture them and Barron attending services.

Here's a 1999 pic of Melania wearing a cross:


And here are Melania's parents arriving in DC for the Inauguration (mother wearing cross):


147 posted on 05/24/2017 2:27:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Salvation

Veils are traditionally worn by ladies when meeting the Pope.

Yes, the Trump girls followed tradition. They were meeting the Holy Head of a major religion in it’s Most Holy Site.

In Saudi Arabia they did not meet with a Holy Man or visit a Holy Site.
I am sure if they had visited a Holy Muslim site they would have scarfed up.


148 posted on 05/24/2017 2:27:59 PM PDT by weston (SO HERE'S THE STORY: As far as I'm concerned, it's Christ or nothing!)
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To: weston

Yep, although I don’t think Muslim women are allowed at Muslim holy sites anyway.


149 posted on 05/24/2017 2:29:37 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Albion Wilde

Wow!


150 posted on 05/24/2017 2:29:57 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: livius
As for the black dresses and fashionable veils, that’s old style protocol - and is probably one of the things that made Frankie mad! He spends all of his time ranting against “traditional” Catholics.

Oh, bingo! You nailed it!

151 posted on 05/24/2017 2:42:11 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: meyer
Not likely, or else he would be rid of that angry scowl on his face.


And a few pounds heavier. "Tengo hambre. Me gustaría a algunos Doritos."

152 posted on 05/24/2017 2:50:46 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: xsmommy
as to Melania’s rosary, that is a standard memento given when meeting the Pope, so it was not her personal rosary, and can’t be taken as any indication that she is Catholic.

Thank you for that clarification. It looked so small in her hand. My neighbor had one that had been blessed by an Archbishop, and it was also very small and understandably inexpensively made, since apparently they are widely distributed as mementoes to persons of all stations at such events.

153 posted on 05/24/2017 2:55:16 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Kalamata
He’s the White Obama

He’s the White ^Hispanic^ Obama...

154 posted on 05/24/2017 2:57:03 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: simpson96; grania; mj1234; ELS; miss marmelstein; Liz; Albion Wilde

This could of course be inaccurate, but an article the fairly prominent Italian newspaper La Repubblica ran today explicitly states that Melania is Catholic:

“Melania, slovena naturalizzata statunitense, è di religione cattolica.”

(Melania, a naturalized American Slovenian, is of the Catholic religion.)

http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2017/05/24/news/trump_in_vaticano-166253830/


155 posted on 05/24/2017 2:58:22 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: cartan

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Or the Adversary’s deputy...


156 posted on 05/24/2017 2:58:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: xsmommy

Her body language, facial expressions and tone of voice are so gracious and lovely in that video.


157 posted on 05/24/2017 3:01:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: hoosiermama

Mllan is 300 kilometers from the Slovenian border, and her town is another distance east of the border. (300 km = 187 miles)


158 posted on 05/24/2017 3:05:17 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The word would be “respectfully”, not “respectively.”


159 posted on 05/24/2017 3:06:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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To: COBOL2Java
Why, you're right! Wow! Look at that sour puss!

Apparently you didn't look at the videos. Il Papa looked like he was having heartburn.

160 posted on 05/24/2017 3:08:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We will be one people, under one God, saluting one American flag." --Donald Trump)
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