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1 posted on 05/19/2017 11:05:30 PM PDT by Helicondelta
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It appears Taibbi and Dershowitz are trying to save the Democrats from embarrassing themselves.


2 posted on 05/19/2017 11:08:44 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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In the words of Dr. Henry Lee in the OJ case: “Sumting wong”


3 posted on 05/19/2017 11:16:03 PM PDT by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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Russiagate started as a ruse to get people's minds off Pedogate.

That's when "fake news" was invented. The lamestreamers are running with it as if their entire existence depends on it.

Throw in a made-up Putin conspiracy and you got yourself a winner.

The problem is most of us are finding it difficult to watch the nightly news, the late night comics and SNL, so we have stopped watching.

They are all acting like as if they just pound at it every chance they get then they will win.

They are all full of crap.

4 posted on 05/19/2017 11:21:14 PM PDT by Slyfox (Where's Reagan when we need him? Look in the mirror - the spirit of The Gipper lives within you.)
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The same guy who wrote that vile screed upon Ailes’ death?


5 posted on 05/19/2017 11:25:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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How? Hillary lost.


7 posted on 05/19/2017 11:32:02 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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I think it started in the fevered imagination of Russia hating Ukrainian activist and Clinton associate Alexandra Chalupa.


8 posted on 05/19/2017 11:32:48 PM PDT by Ray76 (DRAIN THE SWAMP)
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From what I can gather, the Hillary Campaign came up with the
Russia story ( from the hillary campaign book, I don't recall the title) the day after the defeat to delegitimize the Trump win with the story “the Russians stole the election” So far it seems that DNC IT staffer Seth Rich forwarded over 44,000 e-mails with about 17,000 attachments to wickileaks. Seth was shot in the back and killed just after he released the e-mails, but before wickileaks posted them. The democRATs are trying to blame the e-mail relaee on Trump collaboration with Russia. It seems it was DNC saffer Seath Rich who was a Bernie supporter and was upset that the DNC sabotaged Bernie so he released the DNC e-mails that showed what they did..
9 posted on 05/19/2017 11:41:24 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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When Wikileaks poured out volumes of evidence that the Democrat Party was a vile mob of hypocrites and thugs, the DemonRATs needed a counter offensive. The way to do that is to attack the messenger. They used the Alinsky Method to destroy the messenger by making America think they were Russians. The cornerstone of this strategy is you cannot prove a negative which is an event that has an absence of evidence that it happened. If someone were to assert that there is a ghost in their closet, then my failure to observe the ghost in the closet would not constitute good evidence that there is no ghost in the closet. That’s the ticket!


11 posted on 05/19/2017 11:49:06 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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I believe the Russia Gate started with a Trump comment during the primaries. When it was discovered that Hillery’s emails were deleted, Trump said to get them from the Russians. Simple as that. The Rats grabbed on to that and ran with it.


13 posted on 05/20/2017 2:12:00 AM PDT by duckman ( Not tired of winning!)
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This is an easy one to argue with leftists: Just tell them it’s been seven months of this nonsense since he election and we still haven’t heard anybody articulate a specific crime.


15 posted on 05/20/2017 2:53:51 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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What makes this so sickening to your stomach is bill hillary and podesta have done more damage and confiscated billions at America’s expense but Trump is on trial


16 posted on 05/20/2017 3:13:35 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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Russian lie started to provide cover for the illegal spying on Trump during the election.


17 posted on 05/20/2017 3:29:56 AM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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related:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3553548/posts?page=51#51


20 posted on 05/20/2017 3:49:13 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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Humiliated Hillary had to find a reason why she lost 2016.....so they came up with the Russians. At the time Hillary said, "They don't like me."

Hillary musta horse-whipped her 2016 campaign chair, John Podesta, into action. Podesta came charging out of the gate like Greased Lightning, galloping at breakneck speed, sweating it out, desperate to make Hillary look like a "victim."

Here's the very first evidence of the Democrat/Russian connection......about a week after Hillary lost.

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John Podesta Op-Ed: Washington Post post-election op-ed / FR POSTED by by ColdOne

PODESTA: The more we learn about the Russian plot to sabotage Hillary Clinton’s campaign and elect Donald Trump, and the failure of the FBI to adequately respond, the more shocking it gets. The former acting director of the CIA has called the Russian cyberattack “the political equivalent of 9/11.” Just as after the real 9/11, we need a robust, independent investigation into what went wrong inside the government and how to better protect our country in the future.

As the former chair of the Clinton campaign and a direct target of Russian hacking, I understand just how serious this is. So I was surprised to read in the New York Times that when the FBI discovered the Russian attack in September 2015, it failed to (Excerpt) Read more of Podesta at washingtonpost.com ...

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Democrats then latched onto the Russian meme and ran with it...to the floundering loser Dems, it's their lifesaver.

21 posted on 05/20/2017 3:53:07 AM PDT by Liz (Shutting down conservatives' free speech is a form of hate speech. samtheman)
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“Russia” was the pretext the US government used to surveil the Trumps. When they lost the election, they ran with it as cover for that too.

Accusing the Russians of hacking the election distracts from the truth that the US government tried to hack the election, and still lost. What if you stole an election and still lost? You’d be mad too.

The key to an effective Russiagate investigation is this: you only look at Trump people. If you dig long enough, you’ll eventually get lucky and find something, maybe you can get a perjury rap if two stories don’t line up exactly, similar to what they did with Scooter Libby.

You definitely don’t look at anyone outside the Trump camp who we already know is in bed with the Russians. Or the Chinese, or the Saudis, or Muslim Brotherhood.


23 posted on 05/20/2017 4:08:29 AM PDT by marron
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Why was not an investigation and independent investigation started on;
-Vince Foster’s death?
-The W-88 thermonuclear warhead plans leaked to the Chinese,,, and money from the Chinese to Bill Clinton’s campaign?
-900 FBI files Hillary held?
-The various and suspicious death’s surrounding the Bill Clinton political career?
-Benghazi?
-IRS scandal, with snarky IRS officials condescendingly treating the congressional investigators, under oath?
-DNC staffer Seth’s suspicious murder, after it is now revealed he was in contact with Wikileaks?
-Fast and Furious?
-The Clinton Foundation?
-The Hillary uranium deal giving Russia,,,yes RUSSIA,,,20 percent of the US uranium production? When Bill Clinton raised his rates and gave speeches in Russia...(quid pro quo) ?
-Ron Brown’s airplane “accident”?
-...and on and on...

But with no evidence or proof of any wrong doing, we need to have an independent counsel investigate Trump, JUST IN CASE there is any wrong dong... And why don’t Republicans at least follow through on ANYTHING to chase down these people? Clearly a RICO act level investigation is in order with these people, and it would probably take down Hillary for good, as well as Obama, reversing his disaster of a presidency with much less effort.

This is insanity.


26 posted on 05/20/2017 4:25:17 AM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abramsp)
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How Did Russiagate Start?

Look no further than this..


29 posted on 05/20/2017 6:45:31 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hillary Clinton IS a felon)
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Sounds like a left-winger is finally starting to recognize the inconsistency and utter carelessness what their ‘friends’ and ‘allies’ have been up to since they lost the election.

The left wing media is desperate for a conservancy to justify their unexpected defeat, and all they have amounts to little more than their own echo chamber and they are calling that ‘evidence’.

The FBI is not investigating Trump for the simple reason they have nothing to investigate. The were investigating a political proposition that Russian’s involved themselves in our public debate.
I don’t think anyone would doubt that is true of not only the Russians but most every other major country on earth. Particularity the Chinese, but even more openly our so called ‘allies’.

Unlike Clinton however Trump had almost no supporters overseas, his policies of tariffs, toughness, and charging more for American protection were generaly unfavorable for most non-Americans.

There is probably a mountain of evidence of forign parties helping the Clinton campaign very openly in the form of their contribution to the Clinton Foundation.
Pay to play was a poorly hidden Clinton criminal scam for decades.

Trump on the other hand was reviled by most outsiders. Only the Russians hated Clinton more.

It is entirely unfair that the democrats get an investigation into the Russians but we who won the election don’t get any investigation into any other forign ‘interference’.


38 posted on 05/20/2017 8:56:18 AM PDT by Monorprise
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When the Left’s voice of reason is Rolling Stone, they are too far gone to save themselves.

WHEN Russiagate blows up and puts the leakers on trial for espionage and conspiracy, then exposes the seditious conspiracy of it’s origins, the Democrats will be out of power for at least 40 years.

People ARE going to prison. And none of them will be associated with Donald Trump.


39 posted on 05/20/2017 9:04:59 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It started the same way that Occupy Wall Street and Black Lives Matter started.In a smoke filled room (of course the smoke was pot smoke) in order to seize control of an issue.
44 posted on 05/20/2017 4:42:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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