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The Big 3 Exodus: California, Illinois, and New York Keep Losing People to Other States
The Mises Institute ^ | Wednesday May 10, 2017 | Ryan McMaken

Posted on 05/11/2017 8:55:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

It seems that many residents of the West Coast and the Northeast are leaving those regions behind. 

In March, for example, the Sacramento Bee reported that California “exports its poor to Texas ... while wealthier people move in.” Former Californians report that a lackluster job market, a high cost of living, and high taxes are pushing them out. 

This week, Chicago Magazine reported on Chicago's highly publicized diaspora. One interviewee reported the crime, high cost of living, and taxes drove him out of Illinois and across the state line to northern Indiana. “I couldn’t have this size house in Illinois,” he said. 

Last week, Bloomberg reported that state-to-state mobility is strong with increasing numbers of workers moving to “rapidly growing regions where employment is plentiful.”

The United States has long been notable for the frequency with which its residents move around. This isn't always without social and psychic costs to those who move, and their communities.

But, the ease with which workers and families can pick up and move across state lines provides many with the option of moving to a totally new geographic and legal environment where the burdens of taxes and the cost of living may vary greatly. Best of all, unlike Europe, there is no language barrier that comes with moving across the continent to find a new job. 

If one can take advantage of the amenities of other states with relative ease, then residents are more likely to leave behind their current situation for what they perceive to be better digs. 

Thus, according to the 2015 American Community Survey numbers released late last year — the most recent number available — 7.5 million Americans lived in another state just one year earlier — and thus decided that the time had come to move from their home states. 

But, of course, those who moved were not evenly distributed, and there are some big differences by region. 

When we look at the net number of residents moving in from other states, we find that the destination for most of these 7.5 million migrants was states in the South and in the West — excluding California:

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The map, however, fails to account for just how large was the migration out of certain states, specifically, New York, California, Illinois, and New Jersey. When we ignore foreign migrants and look at just state-to-state flows, we find that more than 191,000 people left New York while more than 129,000 people left California. The top destinations for migrants were Florida, Texas, and North Carolina1:

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These are net numbers, meaning that even when we count new arrivals from other states, these states lost residents. 

One objection we might raise here is the fact that the two states fueling the most out-migration have very large populations. How big is the population loss, really, if we look at it in terms of percentages? 

It turns out that in many places the loss, relatively speaking, is still quite large:

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Even when taking into account population loss proportional to the overall population, Illinois (-1 percent), New York (-0.9 percent), and New Jersey (-0.9 percent) still top the list, with Alaska (-0.8) and Connecticut (-0.7) not far behind. By this measure, California — which was second-worst in the nation in terms of raw numbers — is only the fourteenth biggest loser in terms of the percentage of its population that moved away.

The states with the biggest proportional gains were Delaware (+1.4 percent), North Dakota (+1.4 percent), Nevada (+1.2 percent), Idaho (+0.1 percent), and Arizona (+0.1 percent). 

Where did all those Californians go? 

According to the survey, 643,000 people living outside California in the US had lived in California one year earlier. In Colorado — the state with the eighth-largest proportional increase, and a popular destination for Californians — 12 percent of the 227,000 people who moved to Colorado during the survey period were from California alone. That is, 29,000 people moved from California to Colorado. The next biggest source of migrants to Colorado was Texas which supplied 11 percent of all new arrivals. 

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Things look different on the east coast where more new arrivals are from New York. 

Although Florida was among the states with top net population growth, a lot of people also moved away from the state during 2015. Many of them moved to North Carolina. 

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But why are people leaving states like California, New York, and Illinois in such large numbers? Put another way: why are so few choosing to move there? 

It could be any number of reasons from taxes to climate and to employment. 

But, it's likely no coincidence that according to the BEA, the most expensive states to live in are Hawaii, New York, New Jersey, and California. All of those states experienced a net loss of residents to other states. 

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When we employ a basic scatter plot of state-to-state migration with the "Regional Price Parity" measure of the cost of living, we find that above an index of 105, only New Hampshire experienced a rise in new residents from other states: 

Nor is it likely a coincidence that, using the Tax Foundation's measure of tax burden, California, New York, and New Jersey are found among the states with the largest tax burden, and the largest population loss to other states. Eight of the ten states with the highest tax burdens experienced population loss to other states. 

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On the other hand, states like California, New York, and Illinois can seek comfort in the fact that their populations aren't really declining in absolute terms thanks to migration from foreign countries. California residents may be fleeing to other states, but those former residents are being replaced by new residents from abroad. 

Can this be sustainable over time? It depends on the nature of those moving away and those moving in. If those leaving California and New York are highly productive workers seeking a tax break and lower cost of living, then this could lead to a net drain of wealth-producing people. On the other hand, if those moving to new states are primarily retirees or low productivity workers, then the states they're leaving may do just fine with new immigrants who may be able to easily replace those who are leaving. 



TOPICS: US: California; US: Illinois; US: New York
KEYWORDS: california; economy; exodus; flee; illinois; migration; newyork; redstatesvbluestates; trends
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To: HokieMom

I doubt all those people are moving for political reasons but it might have the same effect.

CA and NY are simply too expensive for most people and certainly way too expensive for college grads.

I have 30 something year old’s working for me who make great money but cannot afford to save any money, buy a house, etc. CA takes a huge chunk of their money for income taxes and then with whats left they pay astronomical rent, $7 for a gallon of milk and $3 for a gallon of gas.

I tell them to move to Texas.


21 posted on 05/11/2017 9:17:17 AM PDT by Jonny7797
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To: SeekAndFind

They’re not moving, they’re being displace by illegals and “refugees” from the third world, on purpose.

It’s hard to compete against hoards of illegals, gangbangers, future jihadis, drug cartel enforcers, and their socialist-democrat and RINO backers.

The goal of the socialist-democrats and their RINO-uniparty sycophants is to displace Americans with third world dreggs, and then lord over them like middle age kings and nobility.

They plan on just skipping over the communism socialism thing, and going straight to the monarchy.


22 posted on 05/11/2017 9:19:10 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it. MAGA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good conservatives are leaving Illinois in droves. I am already looking to leave, unfortunately I probably won’t be able to move until after I retire. Trust me, Indiana and Florida will be my retirement home. Illinois SUCKS!!


23 posted on 05/11/2017 9:20:44 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: RayChuang88
Reason: weather--and the fact recreational opportunities are way better than other states, especially during the winter months. Once you live along the coastline of Los Angeles, Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, would YOU want to experience the winters of the US Northeast and Upper Midwest? No wonder why the rich in New York City, Boston, Chicago, Minneapolis-Saint Paul all have second homes in Florida and Texas.

Amen, the weather is a tonic. The geography complements it.

I moved from Sacramento to Colorado, then back to Orange County.

I purchased a small convertible Mercury Capri that doesn't leave the coast to cruise in.

Today we will go shark watching on the beach, since they are plentiful and the whales moved on.

When we get bored with the coast, it's off to Palm Springs (not in summer), a totally different experience.

We are fortunate to be here, bolstered by a series of no-brainer correct life decisions.

24 posted on 05/11/2017 9:21:24 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: HokieMom

I intentionally migrated in 2013 for two reasons

a) to be close to family

b) to get away f on the ridiculous Cra Cra that is california


25 posted on 05/11/2017 9:22:02 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: hoosierham
We have one that was going to declare for the city council as a green party candidate. Then it was discovered that she wasn't even eligible because she didn't meet residency requirements.

That still doesn't stop her from disrupting council meetings with lefty agenda issues.

26 posted on 05/11/2017 9:22:46 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: LoneStarGI; Angels27; HokieMom

I hate to poke a hole in your balloon, but the south was largely Democrat for a long time, roughly 100 years, before voting Republican. Republican control is a recent event. However, I’d dare say that the Democrats of the old south have nothing in common with the Democrats of the north. Now, that doesn’t mean that the northern Democrats don’t have a plan to re-integrate the south into their long term plans to include moving liberals/progressives down here.


27 posted on 05/11/2017 9:22:57 AM PDT by Purdue77 (I can't afford a tag line.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Various NYS govts, state, county, local, make life Hell. Sometimes on a daily basis. We are counting down the days til we can bug.


28 posted on 05/11/2017 9:26:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And if things don’t change, we’re out as well.

Wonderful state as far as beauty and natural resources.

Crappy winters.

Abominable government.


29 posted on 05/11/2017 9:27:33 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Allied Van Lines had NJ as number 1 to ‘get the hell out before the liberals take all my money and give it to junkies.’


30 posted on 05/11/2017 9:29:49 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (It doesn't matter who votes for whom, it only matters who counts the votes - Joe Stalin)
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To: vette6387

Well, from my perspective here in Los Angeles - the leftie libs from San Fran are in Sacramento making the LAWS that make California the way it currently is.


31 posted on 05/11/2017 9:31:54 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: HokieMom

RE: Intentional migrtion to turn the red states purple, if not all the way to blue.

C’mon, you honestly believe that most people who migrate plan to do it? Uproot their way of living, sell their house, leave their jobs, friends, family in order to pursue the goal of political conversion of other states?


32 posted on 05/11/2017 9:32:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: metmom

RE: Wonderful state as far as beauty and natural resources.

Crappy winters.

Abominable government.

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Is the above describing NY or Illinois?


33 posted on 05/11/2017 9:33:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Jonny7797

Well, we cannot WAIT to leave California, and it will be for the politics.


34 posted on 05/11/2017 9:33:51 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Angels27

Not to mention the traffic.


35 posted on 05/11/2017 9:35:14 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Titus-Maximus
Allied Van Lines had NJ as number 1 to ‘get the hell out before the liberals take all my money and give it to junkies.’

Allied Van Line's latest report on top DESTINATION states:


36 posted on 05/11/2017 9:37:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Titus-Maximus
And here is UNITED VAN LINES' OWN REPORT FROM 2 YEARS AGO:


37 posted on 05/11/2017 9:40:38 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: RayChuang88

“Once you live along the coastline of Los Angeles, Ventura and Santa Barbara counties, would YOU want to experience the winters of the US Northeast and Upper Midwest? “

I would DETEST living in an area that didn’t have four seasons.

I love winter and I realize that I’m in the minority but 12 months of summer would drive me nuts.

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38 posted on 05/11/2017 9:42:16 AM PDT by Mears
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To: SeekAndFind

NY.


39 posted on 05/11/2017 9:43:00 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yep! We are under attack from both "external" and "internal" migration from communist and/or moslem infested territories.

Hard to determine which is driving the Nation's decline into tyranny at the fastest rate...

40 posted on 05/11/2017 9:46:14 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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