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To: Olog-hai

This is not correct. Europe is a continent in translation. It is not defined. We already have a much better industrial base than the US i.e. but we are not able to extract all benefits from that. I am aware and understand that many Americans want ludicrous little nations that are picturesque holiday destinations with tasty specialties. Divide et impera. The asymetry between the US (China, Russia, Japan, India, Brazil etc. etc. etc) and small European countries gives the US (or those other countries) the impact to push trough everything. There is a big difference if your guys have to deal with Montenegro or with the mighty EU in Brussels.

Further some values changed in Europe. After the death of German and Austrian nationalism in postwar Europe we got a movement that wants a united Europe. No Germany, France, Austria, Poland, Italia, Spain and Benelux anymore but a bigger, more integrated and more powerful Europe. No Bundeswehr and no French Army anymore, but one big integrated Army, much cheaper and more effective compared to the existing structures. A integrated economy that nourishes all of us and provides wealth to all Europeans. A integrated foreign policy to secure our values to our people.

Therefore the Brexit is something that is welcomed by many Europeans. We got rid of the biggest Troyan horse you can think of. The Brits braked down everything. This is not the case anymore. Macron is just the beginning.


32 posted on 05/22/2017 7:44:45 AM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: European Guest

Oh, “Europe” is defined all right, especially in the context of “ever closer union” (destruction of national sovereignty), “respect for the principles of the United Nations charter” (a document that is based on the 1936 USSR constitution), and the “social market economy” versus the free market.

Your stereotypes and disparaging tone are noted.


33 posted on 05/22/2017 8:58:43 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: European Guest
A integrated foreign policy to secure our values to our people.

And just what "values" would those be?

34 posted on 05/22/2017 9:02:39 AM PDT by dfwgator
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