Shoot, I'm still trying to recover from the Monza!
Still, if we could turn the clock back.... (no i'm not buying a warehouse-load of Monzas)
Posted on 05/03/2017 7:47:28 PM PDT by TigerClaws
I believe he’d be referring to Iran and the things Carter did.
I knew at age 11 all of this would come to pass :)
All I really knew was some older nice guy made me feel safe when he talked on TV and I wanted mom and pop to vote for him for president.
And the funny looking guy currently in office made me feel scared.
Isn’t most of this common knowledge?
True dat!
What they no longer have though is Nation/State resources behind them...at least not those of the .gov that created them.
Separate them from their resources, and they become nothing.
Even bin Laudin money was limited. The family was and is rich, but they can't match the resources of even a backward state like Afghanistan or Iran.
There are ways to deal with other Nation/State entities that want to pick up the support that US agencies gave the players at one time.
The first step is for the US to realise that none of those people over there are our friends. Everything follows from that.
Something near and dear to your heart that you forgot about...
Kennedy -Cuba got nukes. (at least had them on their soil, even if the Soviets controlled them)
Too true.
more ....
Johnson ... china got nukes
Truman ..... Soviet Union got nukes
“more ....
Johnson ... china got nukes
Truman ..... Soviet Union got nukes”
Fortunately, Joseph Kennedy never became President or you would be able to add:
Joseph Kennedy.... Hitler got nukes
Good one!
I’m beginning to think the uptick in opioid derived drugs matches US activity in Afghanistan.
I’m beginning to think the uptick in opioid derived drugs matches US activity in Afghanistan.
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It sure did in the ‘79 time frame.
The CIA has a long history of self-funding wars by selling drugs to American kids.
The US helped the rebel mujahideen with arms, intelligence, and money.
I guess you yearn for the days of Obama.
Kabar: Correct. The anti-Soviet and Anti-Karmal Afghanis fought on their own for a long time before the US started to supply them. Eventually our Stinger missiles denied the Soviet air superiority and Spetnaz helicopter assault advantages and that was the game changer.
The Soviets/Afghani reds lost about 60 mixed aircraft in less that a year, possibly in less than 6 months, with all those aircraft largely being destroyed and their experienced crews killed.
And don’t forget the Sluang? Tunnel wipeout of a Soviet/Afghani column of an estimated 1,000 men, trucks and supplies. That hurt.
Bin Laden was part of a very small and fanatical mujahedeen organization and from what I learned from friends who were there, played only a minor role in fighting the Communists, just as Mao’s forces played only a minor role in fighting the Japanese invaders, saving their arms and best men to later fight the anti-Communist Nationalist Chinese (Kuomintang) of Chang Kai-shek.
Al Qaeda would have been formed in any event. Whether it would become what it did is another question, but with a psychopathic Islamic fanatic like Bin Laden as leader, along with Al-Zawahiri later on, it would have been formed as a extremist, anti-Western terrorist organization. ISIS is based, in part on Al Qaeda, which Obama allowed to grow, just as Jimmy Carter allowed Iran to grow into the threat it is today.
Only thing he missed is that Iranian so-called “revolution” was a carterite construct itself. That cabal thought the King, the Shah of Iran was getting too weak, and the Communist backed Toodeh Party in colleges was getting too strong, and the fools that they were, they chose to bed the islamist devil himself, khomeini, and consolidate the country through the force of islamism which they believed would be a more formidable wall against spread of the Soviets than the Shah. The Iranian “revolution” and rise of khomeinists was another CIA/carterite construct through and through, which backfired, um bigly.
"Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem."
Henry Kissinger
The problem, as we still experience, was America's immigration system, reflecting our conflicted politics and declining view of what America is. We let in all 19 9/11 attackers, and never pursued them once they overstayed their visas.
When dealing with muhajideen one is essentially dealing with an evil anarchy. There is no such thing as a treaty with them.
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